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Die BBC hat schon Aufnahmen von nach dem harten Brexit.
| | A giant 13-mile lorry park on the M20 could last for years in a no-deal Brexit situation, a council has warned.
An impact assessment by Dover District Council has expressed concern over how ports would cope with the potential situation. | |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-45021133
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Ist doch super. Wenn dann alles länger dauert, müssen mehr Leute arbeiten, um die Arbeit zeitig zu erledigen. Das bedeutet mehr Jobs nach dem harten Brexit!
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Aber das rechnet sich doch gar nicht!
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Sit-in Trucker, die Schichten im Stau übernehmen. \0/
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Von Sealane Freight Ltd/Star Cargo PLC Group (UK-Transportdienstleistergruppe mit 245 Mitarbeitern, 92 Mio Euro Umsatz) an das UK Transport Committee:
Channel Freight - "The infrastructure that was in place in 1993 has long since been dismantled and it is simply impossible to reinstate or re-create this in the timescales being discussed. We do not consider that this will be possible before 2025."
| | It is our view that the steps being taken so far are completely inadequate, and not only demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the likely consequences, but also do not reflect the severity and the urgent nature of the situation facing British industry. [...]
All International Transport Companies will suffer initially with the expected long delays for Customs Clearance outbound and Inbound, and the inevitable and substantial queues that will form both shipping out and in via the port of Dover and Eurotunnel. With 30 per cent of food products sold in the UK coming from the EC, supermarket shelves will very quickly empty of certain products. [...]
This reflects what every other International Transporter is facing on a much larger scale. This will be the biggest shake up in our industry for two generations, and a negative one at that. Multiply this one person’s experience by the many millions of trucks and the many millions of consignments affected, and we have the recipe for a major economic disaster. | |
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Demnächst UK dann so
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Und wir müssen Snake Plissken losschicken, um Noch-Europäer da rauszuholen.
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Ach, wenn sich die regale in Großbritannien wirklich mal leeren sollten, wachen die Leute vielleicht mal auf. Aber das glaube ich nicht.
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Das wäre natürlich die Schuld der EU, die den Deal nicht akzeptiert hat.
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Robert Harris, Romanautor (Fatherland):
Barnier has finally killed Chequers - and with it, the UK government >
| | | In an op-ed published in twenty European newspapers, Barnier wrote: “Some UK proposals would undermine our Single Market which is one of the EU's biggest achievements. The UK wants to keep free movement of goods between us, but not of people and services. And it proposes to apply EU customs rules without being part of the EU's legal order. Thus, the UK wants to take back sovereignty and control of its own laws, which we respect, but it cannot ask the EU to lose control of its borders and laws.” | |
| | So what now? For the moment, nothing changes. [...]
But our negotiating partner has now categorically rejected the UK’s formal document, on which, to boot, May has effectively staked her premiership. She will either have to agree to a full single market and customs union, or a Canada-style trade deal which splits the UK’s own single market with a regulatory border in the Irish Sea. Needless to say, she cannot survive either - but neither she nor any successor will ever have better cards to play. | |
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Das ist typisches britisches Tabloid - hoffentlich.
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For anyone who is unsure of what the complications of no-deal Brexit means for trade: Here's 3 (smart, experienced) blokes in the pub chatting about it in layman's terms. Great informative yet casual watch or even just listen.
Einige angesprochene Punkte:
| | If we leave the EU trade will grind to a halt. We will have no agreements, we will have no border, we have no infrastructure, we have no customs agents. We have no land borders, we are an island with two main port exits being Folkstone and Dover, where 4.2 million trucks a year currently cross, excluding vans, mini buses, cars and people. 12,000 trucks a day come in and out from Europe and back to Europe.
Before we joined the EU the UK had spent decades developing trade agreements all over the world, hundreds of them. They have now expired.
We've been trading for the last 40 years under the EU's banner. Not only with our 27 neighbors and closest trade partners, but with another 60 countries all around the world under 34 different trade agreements that the EU have set up. We have frictionless trade with 60 countries outside of the EU at the moment, but that will end as well at 11:59 pm on the 29th of March 2019.
If you have a ship with car parts coming from Brazil, it will not be able to get into the UK past midnight cause all our agreements are broken.
Just-in-time transport businesses will end. Right now I could drive in Canada or any other of the 27 EU or 60 non-EU countries with my UK drivers licence, but that won't be recognized any more. Our UK car insurance won't suffice any more, we would need a green card which costs 4x as much as our standard car insurance. And you won't be able to buy it in a UK. You would need to buy your insurance from a french or german or italian insurance broker because the UK insurance companies lose their passporting rights.
WTO terms are incredible complex and different for every single product. Like 40% on cheese, 48% on grated cheese, 80% on lamb, but only 4% on aircrafts. Because it's so complex you have to be able to measure, check and control the things that are coming into your country and the things going out so the other 164 members of the WTO can apply the right tariffs on exports and you can apply the right tariffs on your imports and also to measure quotas because you might only be allowed to import 200 tons of argentinian beef here, for example, to protect the british beef industry.
The thing is: our parliament made it essentially illegal to fall back on WTO terms and negotiate new trade agreements because section 10.2 b) of the EU withdrawal act specifically says we cannot install any new checks, controls, measures, technology or equipment on the Northern Ireland border that was not there before.
The EU is preparing to build a boder to protect Southern Ireland, but we're not preparing anything and we've made it illegal for us to put a border there.
After leaving the EU we won't have any agreements with other countries, nothing. How long would that take to negotiate?
We trade about 4,500 different product groups. One of those product groups is steel plate. There are over 3200 different grades of steel plate, some of which we make in the UK, so we would have a very high tariff on that. And we don't make a lot of steel ourself, we import semi-finished steel from other countries, like Kazakhstan, Ukraine, France, Germany.
Power outages in the UK will become more frequent, more widely spread, and they will last longer than they have historically. As the UK leaves the EU, we will be excluded from projects like project TERRE (Trans European Replacement Reserves Exchange) where they balance the demand and supply of electrical energy across europe by selling electricy if you have too much and buying if you need it.
Currently we have trade agreements to access a third of all trade that exists on the entire planet due to our EU membership. Day 1 on March the 30th we will have no trade agreements anywhere with anyone on the planet, which means the highest possible tariffs, and we've made it illegal to actually negoticate trade agreements because of the EU withdrawel act.
There are 193 members of the United Nations. Out of them only 35 are seen as advanced economies by the International Monetary Fund, and there are about 20 emerging economies. Out of these 35 advanced economies 27 of them are in Europe. And we have a free trade agreement with all of them right now.
There are only 8 advanced economies outside Europe (US, Canada, Israel, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Australia).
They're all 5-12 hours away, so if we're talking about services (which make up 80% of the british economy), you may have to be up in the middle of the night to do your office job for another country.
If we're talking about goods, transporting them across the globe is very expensive and will get even more expensive if you need to transport them through 3rd countries like ships through the Panama Canal that you don't have a trade agreement with any more.
People are hoping for our own trade agreements with the rest of the world, but Brexit won't make other countries richer. All of the continent of Africa together - the gold, the diamonds, the oil - is half the GDP of France. Who can afford to buy our goods?
We make 417 million pounds of products and good every day that we sell out to the rest of the world, to the EU27 and the other 60 countries where we have trade agreements.
Say we're selling cars to Mexico. Without a trade agreement Mexico will have to apply a 32% tariff on those cars coming into Mexico under WTO rules. So why would they buy that car from the UK that's 32% more expensive on March 30th 2019 than it was two days before instead of buying that same car from France where they've got a trade agreement where it's cheaper? Why on earth would anybody do that?
What happens on day one of leaving the EU? Vegetables will be out of stock in the supermarkes in two weeks.
The government are talking about stockpiling processed foods and fuel and rationing them.
Why can't we buy new stuff and accept the tariffs on it? Because the other countries can't sell it because they can't ensure that their products won't kill your kids, for example. This is what the "CE" certification is for under EU rules, but this won't work any more if we're leaving.
And what do goods travel on? They travel on a pallet. And a pallet has to have a stamp saying that it has been heat treated and certified to prove that nothing is living in it and it has a number on it that can be referenced. And when you send your goods on a pallet you have to have the accompanying paperwork for the pallets.
And the governments wants to stockpile medicine, like insulin. We don't make any insulin in the UK. We can stockpile some, but how big a warehouse do you want to build? 6 months, 9 months, 12 months?
And we don't have large food or other warehouses, our stuff is mainly delivered just in time. When I bring a palette of headlights or air filters from Germany, they're on a car here in the UK within 40 minutes after my delivery and the production line stops if I'm not on time.
Asthma inhalers. Radioactive isotopes for cancer patients. We import them, but radioactive isotopes will not be allowed to be exported from any other country in the world to the UK because they won't be able to ensure it. And you can't stockpile radioactive isotopes because they dregrade. They are delivered to the hospitals just in time, and they degrade within 4:30 hours. | |
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 7 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Herr der Lage am 08.08.2018 19:41]
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Man kriegt richtig Mitleid und gleichzeitig eine riesige Wut auf Farage, Johnson und Rees-Mogg.
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mumpfelgrumpf
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Wow. 
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Ich glaub alles was da steht wissen May und Co ganz genau und lassen den Karren einfach voll gegen die Wand fahren weil...ja weil halt.
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| | Zitat von Xerxes-3.0
"...meh."
- UK, 2018
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The not so United Kingdom of "Great" Britain and Ireland
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von TylerDurdan am 08.08.2018 19:25]
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Wenn der Brexit durchgezogen wird, ist sichergestellt, dass die EU womöglich nochmal erweitert, aber niemals mehr schrumpfen wird.
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Bei Britain knallt der Korken am lautesten, ist also gut, das sie das schlechte Beispiel sind das später jeder zitieren wird. Da kann dann niemand mehr mit dem Argument kommen: "Ja aber Land_X ist ja viel weniger/mehr <Attribut> als Land_Y, das kannst du ja gar nicht beurteilen!"
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| | Zitat von -=Q=- 8-BaLL
Wenn der Brexit durchgezogen wird, ist sichergestellt, dass die EU womöglich nochmal erweitert, aber niemals mehr schrumpfen wird.
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Wenn der Brexit so richtig blutig ausgeht und der Rest der Welt weiterhin so wahnsinnig wird, dann wird das der Grundstein der Vereinigten Staaten von Europa
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Meinten Sie: Europäische Republik
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Von mir aus auch Großdeutschland 2.0
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Nationalstaatsebene abschaffen! MfM!
/Könnte man mal in einem eigenen Thread diskutieren.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von -=Q=- 8-BaLL am 08.08.2018 20:56]
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Großeuropäisch Reich aller Nationen?
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| | Zitat von ]Maestro[
Großeuropäisch Reich aller Nationen?
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Mit Sternchen, weil außer GB. Das sind Verpisser.
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Commomwealth des Vereinigten Kontinentaleuropäischen Reiches und Irland.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Bombur am 08.08.2018 21:19]
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Great Europe (without not so great Britain)
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