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Ach, Parlamentsdebatten sind auch immer wieder spannend anzusehen. Und man kann ja inhaltlich von Bercrow halten was man will, aber ich bin immer wieder beeindruckt über die Eloquenz und Schlagfertigkeit.
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Die sollen mal deutsch reden, sonst versteh ich da nix!
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| | Zitat von catch fire
Ach, Parlamentsdebatten sind auch immer wieder spannend anzusehen. Und man kann ja inhaltlich von Bercrow halten was man will, aber ich bin immer wieder beeindruckt über die Eloquenz und Schlagfertigkeit.
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jo der typ ist echt nice.
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Der kann bestimmt einen besseren Deal aushandeln!
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wow was für ein shittalk.
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THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE WAS HEARD!
Haben die sich gerade aufgeregt weil der Typ mit "You said" angefangen hat? 
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Bregor am 14.01.2019 20:23]
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Ja, schon ulkig. Mal überlegen, was haben die denn alles für ungewöhnliche Regelungen da?
- man darf niemanden persönlich ansprechen außer den Speaker, und muss ihn anschauen >
| | MPs are not allowed to refer to each other by name and instead always refer to “the honourable member for…” the place they were elected to.
If you can’t remember where someone is MP for you can refer to them as “the honourable gentleman” or “the honourable lady”.
If you’re talking about someone from the same party they can be referred to as “my honourable friend”, while members of the privy council – usually ministers –are “the right honourable”.
The exception to this is the Speaker, who can refer to anyone he likes by name. | |
| | MPs are only allowed to speak to one person in the House of Commons: the Speaker. Nobody else is ever directly addressed.
This is why politicians talk in the way that they do, beginning their sentences with “Mr Speaker”, and referring to “he” or “she” instead of “you” when making points about their opponents or friends in a debate. | |
- Applaus ist verboten, also ruft man Hear, hear
- ohne den königlichen Streitkolben auf oder unterm Tisch wird nicht debattiert.
| | In the Houses of Parliament, two ceremonial maces represent the monarch's authority. The monarch is referred to as the "third part of Parliament" and signs Bills into law. Parliament cannot lawfully sit, debate, or pass any legislation without a mace being present in the chambers. They are carried into and out of the two chambers in procession at the beginning and end of each day.
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In the House of Commons, a mace, carried by the Serjeant-at-Arms, is placed on brackets at the end of the Table of the House in front of the Speaker. When the Commons sits as a Committee of the Whole House, or when Finance Bills are discussed, the Mace sits under the table. > | |
- "unparliamentary language" ist verboten, wozu Wörter gehören wie "liar, hypocrite, pipsqueak, swine, rat, blackguard, tart, coward, git, guttersnipe, hooligan, stoolpigeon, traitor" >
| | | The Speaker will direct a Member who has used an unparliamentary word or phrase to withdraw it. Members sometimes use considerable ingenuity to circumvent these rules (as when, for instance, Winston Churchill substituted the phrase "terminological inexactitude" for "lie") but they must be careful to obey the Speaker's directions, as a Member who refuses to retract an offending expression may be named (see below) or required to withdraw from the Chamber. > | |
- Wer etwas sagen will, steht auf. Nach seinem Vortrag sollte man nicht sofort gehen, sondern sich mindestens zwei weitere anhören.
| | | To participate in a debate in the House of Commons or at question time, MPs have to be called by the Speaker. MPs usually rise or half-rise from their seats in a bid to get the Speaker's attention - this is known as 'catching the Speaker's eye'. > | |
| | Don’t come in, make an intervention and then leave. [...] Stay for at least the next two speeches after yours. [...]
At Question Time: Keep your question short and make sure it is a question. [...] Don’t read out your question as it undermines your impact. | |
- Vor der Sitzung wird gebetet, und es gibt kostenlosen Schnupftabak. Nach der Sitzung rufen zwei Türsteher: "Who goes home?"
| | | Each sitting in both Houses begins with prayers that follow the Christian faith. In the Commons the Speaker's Chaplain usually reads the prayers. In the Lords a senior bishop (Lord Spiritual) who sits in the Lords usually reads the prayers. > | |
| | Two Doorkeepers (one behind the Speaker’s chair and one in Members’ lobby) simultaneously shout "Who goes home?" when the House rises. This is often explained as an invitation to Members to join together in bands to cross what in the past were the dangerous unlit fields between Westminster and the City or to hire boats homeward on the Thames as a party in order to save the individual fares (the same may apply to taxis nowadays). The Speaker, on leaving the Chair, will say to the Serjeant "usual time tomorrow", or "usual time this day" if it is after midnight.
Another call is made during the Speaker's procession, which takes place just before the House begins sitting, when the inspector on duty in the Central Lobby shouts "Hats off, Strangers".
There are of course few wearing hats but the police remove their helmets. This is another relic of the elaborate hat wearing and doffing etiquette of former centuries (see Dress below).
The Police, on duty in and about the Palace, do not enter the Chamber when the House is sitting. If the House sits beyond midnight, they remove their helmets. | |
| | | Another curious survival of the eighteenth century is the provision of snuff, in recent years at public expense, for Members and Officers of the House, at the doorkeepers' box at the entrance to the Chamber. Very few Members take snuff nowadays. Snuff, however, is the only form of tobacco to be tolerated in or around the Chamber: smoking has been banned there and in committees since 1693. > | |
- Abstimmungen
| | When MPs vote on debates or legislation it is called a division. When MPs vote they say 'aye' or 'no'. In the Lords, Members vote saying 'content' or 'not content'.
For major votes the House divides into the voting lobbies, two corridors that run either side of the chamber, and members are counted as they enter into each. > | |
- Neugewählte Speaker werden von ihren Kollegen zu ihrem Sitz gezerrt
| | Dragging the Speaker of the House of Commons
When a new Speaker of the House of Commons is elected, the successful candidate is physically dragged to the Chair by other MPs.
This tradition has its roots in the Speaker's function to communicate the Commons' opinions to the monarch. Historically, if the monarch didn't agree with the message being communicated then the early death of the Speaker could follow. Therefore, as you can imagine, previous Speakers required some gentle persuasion to accept the post. > | |
- Essen, Trinken, Zeitunglesen etc. verboten
| | Briefcases are not allowed in the Chamber and the reading of newspapers, magazines, letters or other material (except when connected with the issue under discussion) is not permitted.
Members must not pass between the Chair and the Member who is speaking.
The Speaker has deprecated the noise of distracting electronic pagers, telephones and other electronic devices in the Chamber, although they are acceptable providing they are silent. However, any Member using such a device as aide memoire will be told to resume their seat. [...]
Eating and drinking (except for discreet sips to ease the voice) are not permitted, in contrast to what must have happened in previous centuries, when visitors observed Members sucking oranges and cracking nuts. > | |
- Endorsements on Bills – the use of Norman French
| | If the House of Lords have passed one or more Bills, they send a message to the Commons by one of their senior Clerks. Messages have taken the same form for more than 200 years: "The Lords have passed a Bill...to which they desire the concurrence of this House". However, endorsements on the Bills themselves are made in Norman French (in this case "soit baillé aux communes") a relic of the very early days of Parliament. On a Commons Bill to which the Lords have agreed, is endorsed "A ceste Bille les Seigneurs sont assentus"; if amended "avecque des amendements" is added after "Bille".
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The formulae for Royal Assent are also given in Norman French at the Prorogation ceremony.
"La Reyne le veult" is the formula for public (and, since 1850, also for most private) bills, and "Soit fait comme il est desiré" for private bills due to become personal Acts. > | |
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Ich sag's doch. Dieser Parlament sind ein Haufen nerds, die ihr LARP zu ernst nehmen.
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Ich habe grade reingeschaut, aber gleich wieder abgebrochen, weil Boris Johnson an der Reihe war und etwas von 2,5 Jahren Prokrastination gelabert hat.
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Sehr interessant zuzuhören.
Aber Mann, was ne beschissene Lage. Das geht nicht gut aus. Ich wüsste nicht wie.
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Wieviel Uhr wird heute ca. abgestimmt? Steht das irgendwie genau fest?
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Wird einfach nochmal verschoben. Die Zeit nutzen sie dann für Einzelgespräche und Verhandlungen. Muss doch irgendwie gehen.
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| | | Bad news for Downing Street John Bercow has selected FOUR amendments: Corbyn amendment, SNP amendment, Edward Leigh amendment and John Baron amendment. NOT Murrison or Swire | |
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1085159282688081920
| | Amendment A (Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's amendment) which rejects the deal because it fails to provide a permanent customs union and "strong single market deal", as set out in Labour's "six tests", rejects leaving with no deal and resolves to "pursue every option" that prevents either no deal or leaving on the basis of the current deal.
Amendment K (SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford's amendment) which declines to approve Theresa May's Brexit deal "in line with the views of the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly that they would be damaging for Scotland, Wales and the nations and regions of the UK as a whole", and calls for the UK's departure from the EU to be delayed until another withdrawal deal is agreed.
Amendment B (Tory MP Sir Edward Leigh) which makes clear the Northern Ireland backstop is temporary and should remain temporary and calls for assurance that, if the backstop doesn't end by the close of 2021, this will be treated as a fundamental change of circumstances and would terminate the Withdrawal Treaty on 1 January 2022.
Amendment F (Tory MP John Baron's amendment) gives the UK the right to terminate the Northern Ireland backstop without the agreement of the EU.
[Murrison, nicht ausgewählt:]
The Conservative MP tabled an amendment that would put a time limit on the Northern Ireland backstop, aimed at reducing the scale of the expected government defeat.>> | |
Murrisons Amendment wurde nicht ausgewählt, was die heute voraussichtlich bevorstehende schwere Niederlage für May hinsichtlich der Stimmen (Voraussage: For 214, Against 425 (Defeat by 211 >)) hätte etwas abmildern können. Aber Barons (und etwas weniger: Leighs) Amendment ist mit der EU auch nicht zu machen, da könnten sie auch gleich für "No Deal" stimmen. Aber das wissen sicher auch die MPs.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Herr der Lage am 15.01.2019 14:43]
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Ich beschließe heute ein amendment, dass ich 2019 mit Princess Megan Sex haben werde.
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Es ist fast so als würden sie in der EU bleiben wollen
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Das Bizarre ist ja, dass Labour nicht einfach 100% No Brexit geht, sonder für Brexit ist, aber nur mit customs union und single market. Also im Prinzip EU Junior Partner ohne Mitspracherect aber mit allen Kosten und Pflichten...
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Bekräftigt doch nur das Bild der Arbeiterparteien heutzutage als etwas hohlbrotig. 
Ich bin sehr auf die Abstimmung gespannt! Leider keinen Gin vorrätig.
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Erstmal ein bisschen Geld setzen
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| | Zitat von weissbrot
Das Bizarre ist ja, dass Labour nicht einfach 100% No Brexit geht, sonder für Brexit ist, aber nur mit customs union und single market. Also im Prinzip EU Junior Partner ohne Mitspracherect aber mit allen Kosten und Pflichten...
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Also das genau andersrume, was GB bisher war?
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| | Zitat von Fersoltil
Es ist fast so als würden sie in der EU bleiben wollen
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Da war ich ja tatsächlich von der -öh- Blauäugigkeit der AfD überrascht, die im Mai 2019 mit ihrer europakritischen Haltung punkten möchte.
Scheinen so ziemlich die Einzigen zu sein, die sich keine Sorgen über Brexit und Folgen machen.
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| | Zitat von Sentinel2150
Erstmal ein bisschen Geld setzen
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Auf was? Mays Niederlage ist doch schon fest eingepreist. Das Pfund ist relativ stabil trotz Nachrichtenlage.
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| | Zitat von Fragment
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Erstmal ein bisschen Geld setzen
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Auf was? Mays Niederlage ist doch schon fest eingepreist. Das Pfund ist relativ stabil trotz Nachrichtenlage.
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Ihren Rücktritt oder so
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| | Zitat von Sentinel2150
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Erstmal ein bisschen Geld setzen
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Auf was? Mays Niederlage ist doch schon fest eingepreist. Das Pfund ist relativ stabil trotz Nachrichtenlage.
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Ihren Rücktritt oder so
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Auf Champagner, da ist die Quote besser.
Mays Rücktritt dürften die Bookies doch nur noch mit 2,5:1 annehmen.
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Pyotr Ilych Tchaikovskys "1812 Overture" wird eingeleitet...
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