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gelohnt? nope. noch nicht.
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| Zitat von Vincent
gelohnt? nope. noch nicht.
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Vielleicht doch noch? Ein Bild von der Maschine, die dann zu dieser Legende wurde... Schau mal, wäre das nicht was für deine Sammlung?
Nur 10.000 EUR. Inklusive Versand in die Schweiz!
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Yay, das Lesezeichen zu belassen war richtig!
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Wie Recht du hast
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von monischnucki am 10.04.2020 10:08]
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gibts das mit zertifikat? jedenfalls bonuspunkte für die richtige bemalung und die lensflares!
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Das kannst mit Mayo, Ketchup, Zertifikat und Küsschen auf's Nüsschen bekommen. Kann ich alles arrangieren.
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Dreiteilige Netflix-Doku jetzt draußen.
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Thx!
Du könntest zur Abwechslung auch mal das Flugzeug selbst aus der Versenkung zurückholen und nicht immer nur diesen Thread
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Jetzt im dritten Teil.
Ich finds irgendwie alles konfus, und dann befragen die da irgendwelche Leute die irgendwelche komischen Theorien haben. Der Finder von den Trümmern is das eine, die Russentheorie anhand von MH17 ist konfus.
Bessere Info für 2h Zeit, der Artikel der neulich im Interessantes, oder Luftfahrt verlinkt war.
Ich hab keinen Bookmark dazu.
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Netflix Dokus kann man leider schon seit längerer Zeit in der Pfeife rauchen.
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44:20 Peter Foley, Former MH370 Search Director, ATSB:
| At the risk of sounding flippant, um....opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. Um....cut that, please. But thats true | |
Warum dann erst den Spinnern da Raum geben!?
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| Zitat von monischnucki
44:20 Peter Foley, Former MH370 Search Director, ATSB:
| At the risk of sounding flippant, um....opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. Um....cut that, please. But thats true | |
Warum dann erst den Spinnern da Raum geben!?
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Netflix gibt in Dokus oft einigen Bekloppten Sprechzeit.
Am meisten geärgert hat mich Ancient Apocalypse.
Empfohlen bekommen mit "Du magst doch Dokus über Geschichte, guck mal die neue von Netflix!". War nach ein paar Minuten skeptisch und nach zwei Folgen turbomad als ich den Knilch gegoogelt hatte.
https://slate.com/culture/2022/11/ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-netflix-theory-explained.html
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Netflix’s new hit Ancient Apocalypse is an odd duck: a docuseries filmed in many gorgeous and historic locations (Turkey, Mexico, Indonesia, … uh, Ohio) that advances a provocative thesis aimed furiously at a single academic discipline. The argument is essentially this: The authorities who study human prehistory are ignoring—or covering up—the true foundations of the world as we know it today. And the consequences could be catastrophic.
Graham Hancock, the journalist who hosts the series, returns again and again to his anger at this state of affairs and his status as an outsider to “mainstream archaeology,” his assessment of how terrible “mainstream archaeology” is about accepting new theories, and his insistence that there’s all this evidence out there but “mainstream archaeologists” just won’t look for it. His bitter disposition, I’m sure, accounts for some of the interest in this show. Hancock, a fascinating figure with an interesting past as a left-leaning foreign correspondent, has for decades been elaborating variations on this thinking: Humans, as he says in the docuseries, have “amnesia” about our past. An “advanced” society that existed around 12,000 years ago was extinguished when the climate changed drastically in a period scientists call the Younger Dryas. Before dying out completely, this civilization sent out emissaries to the corners of the world, spreading knowledge, including building techniques that can be found in use at many ancient sites, and sparking the creation of mythologies that are oddly similar the world over. It’s important for us to think about this history, Hancock adds, because we also face impending cataclysm. It is a warning.
Scientists, Hancock says, don’t want to believe any of this because they don’t like to think about mythology or astronomy, both of which he often uses to prove his points. Coming to terms with this paradigm shift would also rock the foundations of their discipline. Hancock, scientists say, doesn’t understand how eagerly they’d leap at this evidence if it really existed, in an empirical and reproducible form. (As archaeologist Carl Feagans writes in a review of Ancient Apocalypse, “Every single archaeologist I know would be elated to discover any previously unknown civilization of the Ice Age. Or any age for that matter.”
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| In reading up on him, I saw that Hancock once was a bit more explicit about the idea that these figures, who supposedly spread across the world to disseminate their ideas as their own civilization was dying, were white. In this series, that’s not part of things. Has he adjusted the way he presents this?
If you research Graham Hancock and look at his books over time, as I have, one of the things that you discover about him is that he self-edits. He doesn’t use the word Atlantis now except very sparingly. He has also edited himself since 1995, when, in Fingerprints of the Gods, he came out and said that it was an ancient white civilization. He no longer says the “white” part in the series. If you pay careful attention, he does talk about “heavily bearded Quetzalcoatl” who arrives, according to myth, to give the gift of knowledge, but he doesn’t mention the other part of that trope, which all of us know about, which is that this visitor supposedly had white skin.
It’s similar to the way that Donald Trump operates. He will get to the edge of something, but he won’t say it, because he knows that his followers already know it. He can say, “I didn’t say that,” and he didn’t say it, but everyone knew what he said because it was already known, right? | |
Das passiert, wenn man für Dokumentationen nach Leuten sucht, die groß, laut und kontrovers argumentieren weil das Klicks gibt.
Und jetzt glauben ein Haufen Leute, dass es eine riesige Archäologieverschwörung gibt oder geben könnte.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 2 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von loliger_rofler am 09.03.2023 16:43]
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So kann man sich seinen Ruf auch direkt versauen. National Geographic und [Aliens], aber dann weiss man direkt, dass man nix von denen mehr ernst nehmen kann.
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Ooooooh, hat jemand PALEO SETI gesagt? Immer wieder erstaunlich auf was für Ideen die Leute kommen (und dann felsenfest davon überzeugt sind). Hatte mal so einen Spezialisten als Arbeitskollege, der hat darüber sogar ein Buch geschrieben und kannte EvD persönlich
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"Lustig", hatte Sonntag Plane gesehen und direkt an MH370 gedacht. Ist die Netflix Doku Kernschrott oder kann man sich das mal antun?
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Hab die Doku gesehen, bin der festen Überzeugung, dass russische Hacker Schuld sind. Spiele heute Abend erstmal wieder Advanced Warfare, oder wie auch immer der Teil hieß, bei dem man gegen die Russen im Weltraum kämpft.
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| Zitat von loliger_rofler
| Zitat von monischnucki
44:20 Peter Foley, Former MH370 Search Director, ATSB:
| At the risk of sounding flippant, um....opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. Um....cut that, please. But thats true | |
Warum dann erst den Spinnern da Raum geben!?
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Netflix gibt in Dokus oft einigen Bekloppten Sprechzeit.
Am meisten geärgert hat mich Ancient Apocalypse.
Empfohlen bekommen mit "Du magst doch Dokus über Geschichte, guck mal die neue von Netflix!". War nach ein paar Minuten skeptisch und nach zwei Folgen turbomad als ich den Knilch gegoogelt hatte.
https://slate.com/culture/2022/11/ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-netflix-theory-explained.html
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Netflix’s new hit Ancient Apocalypse is an odd duck: a docuseries filmed in many gorgeous and historic locations (Turkey, Mexico, Indonesia, … uh, Ohio) that advances a provocative thesis aimed furiously at a single academic discipline. The argument is essentially this: The authorities who study human prehistory are ignoring—or covering up—the true foundations of the world as we know it today. And the consequences could be catastrophic.
Graham Hancock, the journalist who hosts the series, returns again and again to his anger at this state of affairs and his status as an outsider to “mainstream archaeology,” his assessment of how terrible “mainstream archaeology” is about accepting new theories, and his insistence that there’s all this evidence out there but “mainstream archaeologists” just won’t look for it. His bitter disposition, I’m sure, accounts for some of the interest in this show. Hancock, a fascinating figure with an interesting past as a left-leaning foreign correspondent, has for decades been elaborating variations on this thinking: Humans, as he says in the docuseries, have “amnesia” about our past. An “advanced” society that existed around 12,000 years ago was extinguished when the climate changed drastically in a period scientists call the Younger Dryas. Before dying out completely, this civilization sent out emissaries to the corners of the world, spreading knowledge, including building techniques that can be found in use at many ancient sites, and sparking the creation of mythologies that are oddly similar the world over. It’s important for us to think about this history, Hancock adds, because we also face impending cataclysm. It is a warning.
Scientists, Hancock says, don’t want to believe any of this because they don’t like to think about mythology or astronomy, both of which he often uses to prove his points. Coming to terms with this paradigm shift would also rock the foundations of their discipline. Hancock, scientists say, doesn’t understand how eagerly they’d leap at this evidence if it really existed, in an empirical and reproducible form. (As archaeologist Carl Feagans writes in a review of Ancient Apocalypse, “Every single archaeologist I know would be elated to discover any previously unknown civilization of the Ice Age. Or any age for that matter.”
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| In reading up on him, I saw that Hancock once was a bit more explicit about the idea that these figures, who supposedly spread across the world to disseminate their ideas as their own civilization was dying, were white. In this series, that’s not part of things. Has he adjusted the way he presents this?
If you research Graham Hancock and look at his books over time, as I have, one of the things that you discover about him is that he self-edits. He doesn’t use the word Atlantis now except very sparingly. He has also edited himself since 1995, when, in Fingerprints of the Gods, he came out and said that it was an ancient white civilization. He no longer says the “white” part in the series. If you pay careful attention, he does talk about “heavily bearded Quetzalcoatl” who arrives, according to myth, to give the gift of knowledge, but he doesn’t mention the other part of that trope, which all of us know about, which is that this visitor supposedly had white skin.
It’s similar to the way that Donald Trump operates. He will get to the edge of something, but he won’t say it, because he knows that his followers already know it. He can say, “I didn’t say that,” and he didn’t say it, but everyone knew what he said because it was already known, right? | |
Das passiert, wenn man für Dokumentationen nach Leuten sucht, die groß, laut und kontrovers argumentieren weil das Klicks gibt.
Und jetzt glauben ein Haufen Leute, dass es eine riesige Archäologieverschwörung gibt oder geben könnte.
| | Gab es hier nicht mal jemanden, der daran glaubte?
Ach hier:
https://forum.mods.de/bb/thread.php?TID=217641&PID=1248237918#reply_1248237918
| Zitat von judas3000
Doku-Tip: Die Pyramiden-Lüge
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Dreiteilige Netflix-Doku jetzt draußen.
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Das ist die schlechteste Dokumentation seit...boah.
Was sollen die Interviews mit Hinterbliebenen?
Und die Spruenge zwischen Personen die sich fuer wichtig halten, immer mit einem MacBook vor sich.
Was hat New York mit dem Indopazifik zu tun?
Und dann diese Bilder wo ein Flugzeugrumpf ueber eine Schaumkrone auf dem Meer gelegt wurde.
Startabbruch nach Folge 1.
| Zitat von Poliadversum
Netflix Dokus kann man leider schon seit längerer Zeit in der Pfeife rauchen.
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Meine Bandbreite diesbezueglich ist noch klein, aber ich fuerchte das koennte stimmen.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 3 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von hoschi am 11.03.2023 19:19]
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"Green Dot Aviation", ein Channel der Flugzeugunglücke technisch recht detailliert rekonstruiert, hat vor zwei Wochen ein Video zu MH370 hochgeladen. Es scheint recht Deckungsgleich mit diesem Artikel (wurde hier, glaube ich, schon gepostet?). Fand ich sehr spannend:
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Thema: Mysteriöser Malaysia Airlines Flug MH370 ( Was ist wirklich passiert? ) |
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