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So erscheint mir das, ja. Es ist einerseits anschaulich, unter Fanggebieten, Fangquoten und FISCH kann sich jeder etwas vorstellen. Andererseits ist es auch stark mit dem Souverenitaetswunsch verknuepft, schliesslich geht es um kontinentale Fischflotten in britischen Gewaessern.
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Du musst dazu rechnen München - Mailand geht als Einzelfahrt ~600-650 iirc.
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Weil mich das schon ewig beschäftigt grätsche ich hier mal themenfremd rein: Was kostet es so einen LKW 1000km fahren zu lassen? Also alles in allem mit Fahrer, Diesel, Versicherung, Anschaffung usw.
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Zu der Fischgeschichte: Ich habe da das Gefühl dass das halt jetzt so ein Punkt ist der a) emotional und damit hoch politisch ist und b) an dem sich alles was sich an den anderen Punkten durch die man sich gewurstelt hat angestaut hat Weg bahnt.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von [2XS]Nighthawk am 21.12.2020 10:56]
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Hab gehört, dass die Bremscheiben bei bulgarischen lkw aus nadeniza und die Klötze aus moussaka bestehen.
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An der D@emon University of Applied Science kann man Fahrzeugtechnik studieren? 
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wenn hinterm Auspuff die schwarze Rußfahne an der Karrosserie ist, dann hat der seine Adblue Einspritzung deaktiviert.
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Das mag ich nicht so stehenlassen: How? Also, rußt er "zufällig" mehr, wenn er die NOx-Reduzierung aus hat? Denn von den Reaktionsedukten erklärt erstmal nichts Ruß.
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Sicher richtig, die haben dann oft auch Probleme mit dem Kat und gaukeln der Motorsteuerung was weiß ich was vor, also die ganz groben Fälle. Wenn du das bei nem neuen LKW betreibst ist das sicher nicht gleich so auffällig, das muss ich korrigieren. Ich bin aber auch kein Technikheini und laber nach was die Disponenten sagen, die sind wie Waschweiber.
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Hat wer sich wer was überlegt? Das sind halt erstmal die Einfuhrrichtlinien der EU. UK wird jetzt halt mit Kamikazistan gleichgestellt - von da darf man auch kein Fleisch mitbringen.
Ob das dann tatsächlich durchgesetzt wird ist sicherlich fraglich.
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| | Zitat von [2XS]Nighthawk
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Du musst dazu rechnen München - Mailand geht als Einzelfahrt ~600-650 iirc.
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Weil mich das schon ewig beschäftigt grätsche ich hier mal themenfremd rein: Was kostet es so einen LKW 1000km fahren zu lassen? Also alles in allem mit Fahrer, Diesel, Versicherung, Anschaffung usw.
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Wie schon vom Kollegen hier gesagt ist der größte und auch variabelste Batzen die Gage des Fahrers. In der Schule lernen die Azubis was von 1,45-1,50 netto auf den Lastkilometer sei kostendeckend hierzulande. Ich hab einen Kollegen der sich da aber gerne mal über seine Art der Vollkostenrechnung fast zwei Euro aspemathisiert und am anderen Ende hast du die Wabereres, Walters und Girtekas die die für unter nem Euro per Lastkilometer rumrennen. Also wie immer, es kommt darauf an.
Wenn du nen Laster 1000 km weg schickst kommt der Preis auch stark darauf an ob er dort dann eine gut dotierte Rückladung bekommt. Wenn er in der Walachei steht und 200 km zur nächsten Ladestelle hat zahlst du das dann mit. Meistens, normalerweise, in allr Regel. Oder auch nicht weil 10.000 verschiedene Gründe.
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| | Zitat von da t0bi
In der Schule lernen die Azubis was von 1,45-1,50 netto auf den Lastkilometer sei kostendeckend hierzulande. Ich hab einen Kollegen der sich da aber gerne mal über seine Art der Vollkostenrechnung fast zwei Euro aspemathisiert und am anderen Ende hast du die Wabereres, Walters und Girtekas die die für unter nem Euro per Lastkilometer rumrennen. Also wie immer, es kommt darauf an.
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Auch und ganz besonders darauf, wie derjenige seine Teilkostenrechnung betreibt. Vollkostenrechnung ist in der Rückschau eine feine Sache, vorausschauend taugt sie einfach nicht richtig als Entscheidungsbasis.
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Vegetarische Sandwiches machen. Oder behaupten es wären welche.
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Die armen Helden der Straße.
Ist Garden Gourmet oder Rügenwalder Mühlenhack gefühlsechter?
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Die armen Helden der Straße.
Ist Garden Gourmet oder Rügenwalder Mühlenhack gefühlsechter?
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Da wäre dann vermutlich Like Meat die beste Wahl ...
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Mühlenhack riecht wie dieses Packpapier in Amazonpaketen. Und es schmeckt, wie es riecht.
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Mühlenhack ist schon ok. Hater bitte nach UK auswandern.
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Hey, ich schreibe niemandem vor, was sie/er zu essen hat!
Aber für ne gesunde Mischkost könnte man ja auch mal das Packpapier von mindfactory nehmen. Dazu ein leckerer Patron ausm Esso Shop.
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Ich habe Mühlenhack letztens Mal probiert und damit ein Chili Con Ersatz-Carne gemacht. War aber von Konsistenz, Geschmack und insbesondere Geruch eher nicht überzeugt.
Wenn mein Hirn die "riecht wie China-Import nachdem man die Folie aufgerissen hat" Assoziation wieder vergessen hat, werde ich Mal die Konkurrenz probieren.
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https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1341110145825320964 >
| | Brexit latest: UK and EU are edging towards a deal on fishing rights as December 30 is eyed as the date to pass it into law. Compromise may be 35% cut in EU access over five year period.
Current EU offer is 25% cut in access to UK waters over a six year transition period. But lots of folks in Whitehall are discussing @RaoulRuparel’s Politico article suggesting 35% cut and five year transition could be a landing zone all can live with.
British officials insist that the fishing talks are “brutally complicated” and both sides are “far part”. Let’s see how that looks in a few days time.
Such a compromise on fishing would be a considerable shift for both sides. EU previously said it would not give up more than 18% of it access to British waters, while UK insisted it wanted to take back 80% of them. | |
There comes a stage it is massively a return on investment for the UK and EU each to write a cheque for £50m to the French fisherman and sign the deal.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Herr der Lage am 21.12.2020 22:21]
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Was würde eigentlich passieren, wenn man sich nicht auf Fisch-Quoten einigen könnte? EU-Fischer dürfen gar nicht mehr in UK-Gewässern fischen oder so viel sie wollen? Was sind die grundlegenden Regel?
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Jo, dann müssen prinzipiell alle anderen draußen bleiben.
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Dann werden die Boote alle abgeknallt und versenkt. Endlich wieder Krieg!
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Hey, ich schreibe niemandem vor, was sie/er zu essen hat!
Aber für ne gesunde Mischkost könnte man ja auch mal das Packpapier von mindfactory nehmen. Dazu ein leckerer Patron ausm Esso Shop.
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Es ging nie ums essen, ihr Nichtchecker. 
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Ein kleiner Vorgeschmack auf Brexit. Taking back control!
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EU Rebuffs Boris Johnson’s Latest Brexit Concession on Fish >
| | Johnson spoke with Commission President Ursula von der Leyen twice by phone on Monday to try and break the deadlocked negotiations. The U.K. made an offer that would see value of the fish EU boats catch in British waters shrink by 30%, a substantially smaller drop than the 60% it was demanding last week. The bloc, however, refused to accept a reduction of more than 25%, saying even that was hard for countries like France and Denmark to accept, according to officials with knowledge of the discussions. ...
But it’s not as simple as just the raw numbers, which is why, as the two sides continue to talks, a compromise still isn’t out of the question. Alongside the percentage value of catch, the two sides are haggling over how long a period of time fishermen will be given to adjust to the rules. The U.K. has demanded the EU accept a five-year transition period after previously suggesting three years. The bloc had initially called for 10 years, and has now offered seven.
The EU wants to be able to impose tariffs on the U.K. if, in future, the government restricts access to its waters. In its latest compromise offer, the U.K. said it would accept tariffs on fisheries but not in other areas, such as on energy, as demanded by the bloc. | |
| | | While the issue is financially insignificant -- the two sides are haggling over roughly 33 million euros ($40 million) of fish annually -- the British see control of their fishing waters, previously under the jurisdiction of the EU, as a key element of the sovereignty that it is regaining with Brexit. For its part, the EU doesn’t want to give access to its single market without maintaining fishing rights in return. | |
Chaotic messaging from UK leaves European countries in a rush to shut down borders >
| | Analysis: Boris Johnson appears to have failed to foresee potential international consequences of statements made for domestic consumption
A lack of communication from Boris Johnson’s government to European leaders on the virulence of the new Covid threat, and Matt Hancock’s declaration that a mutant strain was “running out of control”, have greatly contributed to the UK travel ban, according to diplomats. The prime minister’s sudden announcement that the new strain was 70 per cent more transmissible than the original virus, and the health secretary’s dire warning of rampant infections, left governments abroad with no choice but to close doors as an emergency measure. The way the information was presented, hold a number of diplomats, points to the British government failing to foresee the potential international consequences of statements made for domestic consumption to justify new restrictions. ...
“There is certainly a feeling that the UK government presented things for domestic politics without thinking fully of what effect it will have in other countries,” said a senior western European diplomat. “But when you talk up high transmission rate and say the disease is out of control, then it is bound worry not only people in the UK but people and governments in other countries as well.” ... A second diplomat echoed the view that Boris Johnson’s government failed to anticipate the international ramifications. He added that “the way it was done perhaps reflects the personality of this prime minister. There has not been much communication with European leaders in a number of issues.” | |
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Herr der Lage am 22.12.2020 15:59]
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Das wo die hinwollten ist am Ende auch gefallen.
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https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1341428171229544448
| | Michel Barnier tells EU ambassadors his offer on fisheries, ie 25pc of the value of the fish caught in UK water by EU boats, is final, rejects the UK's 35pc offer. Diplomat says a deal is close but the "overall balance" regarding fisheries and other issues "not there yet". Diplomat says a deal may not be ready in time for the Dec 31 deadline.
Key point: Barnier told ambassadors the UK offer of 35pc did not include pelagic stocks, and if it did it was closer to 60pc. "It's not 25pc v 30pc, it's 25pc v 60pc" says official. Also, the UK offer excludes any access to the 6-12m zone, Barnier told ambassadors. | |
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1341482445808537604
| | After Michel Barnier's briefing of EU ambassadors this afternoon, here's where things stand:
There is a basic deadline of Christmas Eve to get a deal. That will give the EU's legal services time to draw up a letter to send to the UK seeking provisional application of the treaty from Jan 1. ...
There are still some issues around the level playing field and governance, areas the UK wants to change, or wants sunset clauses on. For example, London wants to limit the extent to which energy can be subject to the level playing field constraints.
Despite the cautious optimism that a deal can be done, fisheries remains a major problem. ...
Overall, member states believe fisheries is so sensitive and even non-coastal member states have not noticeably broken ranks on the issue (in Belgium, for example, fishing is a Flemish pursuit + the central govt can't afford to alienate Flemish nationalists on the issue).
Barnier said the image of Brexit in Europe on Jan 1 would be angry protesting fishermen. How wd you explain to people we're going to give the UK interconnection rights in the North Sea to the EU grid + at the same time our boats aren't allowed to catch fish in UK waters?
Other outstanding areas still not resolved: rules of origin for electric batteries; UK participation in Erasmus; and an EU demand for a non-discrimination clause. This wd mean that the UK cannot discriminate against any member state. It's been incorporated into social security cooperation, but not into the sphere of short term visas. This is a non-neogiable element for the EU, I'm told. In particular there is a concern that, say, Romanian citizens would be given worse treatment compared to other member states when it came to short term visas. ...
Member states are getting increasingly frustrated that they cannot see a draft text yet. There will be a meeting of the Working Party tomorrow where member states will get a detailed outline of what's in the treaty (but no text) in a mtg which could last four hours.
And, wait for it, one official raised the possibility that the text is now 2,000 pages long, including annexes. | |
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Es wundert mich fast schon dass unser menschlicher News-Crawler 8-Ball blinde Flecken hat. Um so stärker wie hier HerrderLage in die Bresche springt.
2000 Fucking Seiten ey. Junge Junge Junge.
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Glücklicherweise haben wir frühzeitig von allen Lieferanten in UK 4 Wochen Reichweite auf Halde gelegt. Mal schauen wie lange die reichen
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Meine Vermutung: 4 Wochen lang.
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https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1341762205038112768
| | EU sources have said a Brexit deal could be reached in the next 24 hours. “There is an air of optimism,” one EU diplomat told @rtenews. “The final touches are between [European Commission president Ursula] Von der Leyen and Boris [Johnson, the British prime minister].”
The source said the Commission president was in touch with EU leaders. “There’s a very strong push to get it done before Christmas. The idea that everyone comes back again on Sunday or Monday to start again… that will happen if necessary but there does seem to be a strong push to get it done before Christmas,” the diplomat said.
It’s understood fisheries remains the final outstanding offer. The EU appears to be sticking to the most recent offer of a 25pc transfer of the value of fish caught by EU boats in UK waters to British fishermen. It's understood member states officials have already begun drafting legal texts which will allow for the formal acceptance by capitals of any deal, should agreement be reached. Another diplomat says: “it does look like this can come together. I does look like this can come together as early as today...”
I’m told there was important moment last night on fisheries and that VDL and Johnson have been instrumental in developments in the past 24 hours. “It’s all fish” says diplomat. | |
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1341794066372149257
| | | a meeting of EU ambassadors (Coreper) has been convened for tomorrow morning, to be briefed on Brexit negotiations, source | |
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Brexit-Einigung, der Stau (mit inzwischen 3800 Lkw) löst sich auf und vermutlich klappen auch die Luftbrücke-Hilfslieferungen.
Man möchte fast Brite sein!
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https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1341762205038112768
| | EU sources have said a Brexit deal could be reached in the next 24 hours. “There is an air of optimism,” one EU diplomat told @rtenews. “The final touches are between [European Commission president Ursula] Von der Leyen and Boris [Johnson, the British prime minister].”
The source said the Commission president was in touch with EU leaders. “There’s a very strong push to get it done before Christmas. The idea that everyone comes back again on Sunday or Monday to start again… that will happen if necessary but there does seem to be a strong push to get it done before Christmas,” the diplomat said.
It’s understood fisheries remains the final outstanding offer. The EU appears to be sticking to the most recent offer of a 25pc transfer of the value of fish caught by EU boats in UK waters to British fishermen. It's understood member states officials have already begun drafting legal texts which will allow for the formal acceptance by capitals of any deal, should agreement be reached. Another diplomat says: “it does look like this can come together. I does look like this can come together as early as today...”
I’m told there was important moment last night on fisheries and that VDL and Johnson have been instrumental in developments in the past 24 hours. “It’s all fish” says diplomat. | |
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1341794066372149257
| | | a meeting of EU ambassadors (Coreper) has been convened for tomorrow morning, to be briefed on Brexit negotiations, source | |
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https://twitter.com/SFischer_EU/status/1341798424455372803
| | Dear Tony,
the EU Council Presidency would have to convene a meeting of EU Ambassadors (COREPER) And we haven’t done so. Your source is wrong. #Brexit
Best,
Sebastian | |
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