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Es muss aber keine Neuwahlen geben, die Tories könnten einfach jemand neues reinschustern. Was bei deren Beliebtheit heutzutage wahrscheinlich ist 
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Johnson oder wer kommt dann.
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Oder Amber "Reverse Schindler's List" Rudd
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Er will nur dem Volk geben, was es will. Das hat sich schließlich mit 51% zu 49% ganz klar für einen beinharten Brexit ausgesprochen. Das wurde dann ja auch durch die hervorragenden Wahlergebnisse der Tories letztens noch ein mal überdeutlich bestätigt. 
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The Daily Mail are blaming the EU for the Grenfell Tower fire
Hier ein Talk von 2012 über die Daily Mail:
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Hol ich mal rüber, ist gut:
| | Zitat von smoo
Auf Reddit fragt ein amerikanischer User nach einer "Explain Like I'm 5 Years Old" Erklärung für BREXIT und den folgenden Cartoon:
Einer der (m.E. interessanten) Kommentare darunter:
| | It's rather a good cartoon. A poignant one.
So it goes:
- A bunch of vain and incompetent Tories in power, call for a referendum to score political points and get a reprieve from negative press. They have no intention or interest in actually leaving the EU. Hard right plays along. Aaaaand...
- They actually win the referendum they planned on losing while pretending to want to win it. And they realise they are most likely fucked. PM quits, washing his hands from the coming shitstorm.
- They push the hot potato to a vain and sadly incompetent person by the name of Theresa May. The only one who wants the job is Boris Johnson, a tasteless baffoon and May at least looks presentable from afar. She steps in as PM. Sends an official letter to the EU bosses saying UK quits, at which moment a 2 year clock starts ticking on the full completion of divorce. The kids, the house, lawyers, everything. An inconceivably massive undertaking.
- Tory has a healthy lead over Labour in polls, so May concocts a cunning plan to call an early elections. She does it. Starts campaigning. Exposes herself as completely dishonest and incompetent. On the other hand, Labour, ethically compromised by the Blair castration, starts getting a push in the polls. Lead by Jeremy Corbyn, a rather honest old-school socialist. A complete underdog in today's political climate. Tories start panicking, Labour does an inspired campaign.
- Tories lose the majority. Put together a panicky coalition with an extremist right party from Northern Ireland. They're clinging to straws and losing any vestiges of a mandate from the people. A mandate any party in power sorely needs to stand a chance of pulling a half-decent job in negotiations with the EU.
- All the while, the clock is ticking. EU had had dozens of top experts from all fields put together a pile of well organized documents on the divorce proceedings. They have a much better leverage and all politicians in the UK know it. While telling their people that they are going to have their way with the EU and all secretly wishing that they would wake up and none of this really happened. So the reins are firmly in EU's hands, while the UK government is still trying to pump out the water from a flooded basement, while the roof is starting to catch fire. Without any kind of support from a bitter nation behind them. A nation that is starting to understand that it has been fed lies for years. Plus the businesses are panicking and capital is slowly but surely looking for ways out of UK and into the EU. All the while, the EU powers-that-be have a practically unanimous support from the EU populace, that has reacted by coagulating much more about the EU project. But most of all, EU needs to make an example of the UK, lest some other country would think it prudent to leave their precious project.
And UK doesn't have a government that can even be sure of support to push legislation through the parliament, let alone put together a competent team of negotiators for Brexit. It doesn't even know what kind of a deal it wants. It is delusionally emotional entering into a negotiation where you would have to be on the very top of your game to get an acceptable deal.
So that's why the cartoon is depicting the likely new leader of the Tories trying to make any sense of what to do, across from a calm and perfectly polite gorilla, about to rip him apart. | |
https://np.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/6i1umn/the_telegraph_cartoon_whenever_youre_ready_mr/dj331ok/?context=3
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Der ist auch in r/uk gerade ganz oben.
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Es geht los mit den Brexitverhandlungen, doch bisher ist noch nicht viel passiert.
Auftakt in Brüssel - EU und London einigen sich auf Brexit-Fahrplan
UK caves in to EU demand to agree divorce bill before trade talks >
| | | In contrast to well-rehearsed EU positions on issues such as the financial settlement and Irish borders, British officials admit they did not bring any pre-prepared negotiating papers to share with their counterparts - insisting instead that their overall ambitions were made clear by the government’s earlier white paper and Lancaster House speech. | |
"Wir haben vor ein paar Monaten schon gesagt, dass wir einen 'red, white and blue Brexit' wollen. Damit sollte unsere Position ja wohl klar sein."
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Währenddessen interviewt Abgeordneter und ehemaliger Spitzenkandidat Ed Milliband auf einer Nachmittags-radioshow Leute über ihre Toilette
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| | PM Theresa May has told EU leaders any EU citizen living in UK for five years will be given "settled EU status".
The new immigration status would grant them rights to stay in the UK and get health, education and other benefits after Brexit. | |
Könnte man als Zugeständnis werten.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40376083
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| | Zitat von -=Q=- 8-BaLL
| | PM Theresa May has told EU leaders any EU citizen living in UK for five years will be given "settled EU status".
The new immigration status would grant them rights to stay in the UK and get health, education and other benefits after Brexit. | |
Könnte man als Zugeständnis werten.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40376083
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Oder als Rosinenpickerei. Denn natürlich hätten die ein massives Problem, wenn die da qualifizierte Arbeitskräfte aus dem Land verweisen. Von der Unsicherheit der ganzen Briten die in der EU leben mal ganz abgesehen, die würde die EU wohl nicht "abschieben". Danach könnte man aber auf die Idee kommen als Brite zu sagen: "Hey, also Zölle sind ja irgendwie doof. Wir erheben keine wenn ihr das genauso macht!".
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| | Zitat von [GMT]Darkness
| | Zitat von -=Q=- 8-BaLL
| | PM Theresa May has told EU leaders any EU citizen living in UK for five years will be given "settled EU status".
The new immigration status would grant them rights to stay in the UK and get health, education and other benefits after Brexit. | |
Könnte man als Zugeständnis werten.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40376083
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Oder als Rosinenpickerei. Denn natürlich hätten die ein massives Problem, wenn die da qualifizierte Arbeitskräfte aus dem Land verweisen.
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nanu? Es hieß doch immer diese Leute des Landes zu verweisen und dafür echte Briten einzustellen sei die Lösung aller Probleme.
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Leave voter realises his fruit farms could collapse without EU migrant workers
| | A Leave-voting business owner has said he regrets the decision because his fruit farms will collapse if he has no access to EU workers after Brexit. [...]
If EU labourers disappear 'I don't have a business. It's as simple as that,' says Harry Hall, whose company farms 1,100 acres | |
| | | A worker at Hall Hunter Partnership's Tuesley Farm in Godalming, Surrey, told Today it had had one English applicant in the last several years, but that they quit after one day. >> | |
DUP broke off talks with Tories for 36 hours this week as they demand £2billion for Northern Ireland
| | The Democratic Unionist Party broke off talks with Theresa May this week as it told her to spend £2billion in Northern Ireland if she wants the party to prop up her minority Conservative Government.
The DUP demanded the cash – which works out as £1,100 per person in the Province - as talks veered dangerously close to breaking down altogether.
The talks became so strained in the past few days that the DUP negotiators in Belfast refused to pick up the phone to the Prime Minister’s team for 36 hours | |
| | | The DUP is prepared to walk away from a formal deal with the Government and decide whether to back the Tories on a “case by case” basis. | |
Ich glaube nicht, dass diese Regierungs-Shitshow auch nur irgendetwas nennenswertes geschissen bekommt.
Irgendwann: May wird gefeuert, Neuwahlen, Brexit: "Verdammt, keine Zeit mehr, nun ist guter Rat teuer."
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da freut sich der Wähler, wir kaufen uns jetzt den Regierungsauftrag
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Immerhin werden sie nicht mehr von der EU regiert!
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auch heute:
EU citizens must apply for special ID card after Brexit
| | The policy paper reveals EU nationals who have applied for permanent residence status documents since the referendum thought to number more than 150,000 will be asked to apply again albeit in a streamlined process. Those who have been asked previously to show evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance will no longer have to do so.
The UK offer on the rights of EU nationals makes clear that after Brexit they will lose their right to bring in a spouse to live in Britain without meeting an £18,600 minimum income threshold.
Announcing the UK offer in the House of Commons, May said those EU nationals who had settled status would have the same rights as British citizens to bring family members into the UK.
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Du hast den gelben Stern... ich nicht.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von csde_rats am 26.06.2017 18:39]
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Irgendwie erscheint mir das alles gar nicht so verrückt. Vielleicht weil ich darunter bessere Rechte habe als ich erwartet hätte (auch wenn sie schlechter sind als ohne Brexit), aber so eine Bescheinigung gibt es doch fast überall für Ausländische Einwohner, oder nicht?
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Ja, klar ist es eine Einschränkung. Aber das hatte ich mit Brexit ja erwartet - darum ging es ja (zum Teil). Die Frage ist ja wie es ist im Vergleich zu zB den USA oder Ländern wie Kanada.
Mir ging es eigentlich darum, dass ich von Theresa May schlimmeres erwartet hätte.
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| | Nicola Sturgeon has put her independence referendum plans temporarily on hold after announcing a "reset" of her proposed timetable.
The first minister had called for an independence referendum to be held in the autumn of 2018 or spring of 2019. | |
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-40415457
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| Thema: Der Brexit ( Wird das UK die EU verlassen? ) |
