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Scholz sollte jetzt auf Lindner in den Sonnenuntergang reiten. Dumme Pisser.
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| | Zitat von Lunovis
Eine schlecht genährte Armee kämpft nicht so gut.
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Und vor allem lässt sich eine schlecht genährte Welt besser destabilisieren
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| | Chomsky: The US is living under a totalitarian culture much worse than Soviet Union
Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German TV
Today Americans are not permitted to hear what Russians are saying
The US has imposed constraints on access to info beyond Soviets | |
https://twitter.com/SizweLo/status/1550548521882947586
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Chomsky ist schon länger off the deep end
Der wird leider auch nicht jünger...
Das schon gut muss ich sagen 
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Poliadversum am 24.07.2022 13:59]
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https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1551113884676886528
| | Yesterday and today, the Russian media reported that Ukraine had struck a bridge near the dam in Nova Kakhovka, but there were no confirmation.
Today there are photos of one of the craters and how the Russians are trying to patch up the road.
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| | | > Yeah (slaps concrete) this baby will hold a dozen tanks | |
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1551126252429447168
| | | this barrel from the Russian BMP was filmed by Ukrainians | |
| | | russian "precision engineering"... this is why every russian weapon system is junk... they can't produce anything that works (except when @Siemens helps them) and they don't care if they send soldiers into war with a barrel that can't shoot straight. | |
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1551095330674016256 | Thread Reader
| | Sunday update, the shift in focus is to the west (Kherson Front) as Ukraine is preparing the ground for a counteroffensive and Russian attempts to continue to move forward in the Donbas are petering out. Ukrainian strategy, Bleed them in the Donbas, Defeat them in Kherson.
Whats happened in the Donbas in the last 3 weeks can be summed up quickly. Almost no Russian advance, a major drop in Russian ranged fire since July 9. Russian logistics seem severely degraded and if they cant find a way to get ammo in mass quantities to front line units ...
If Donbas looks static, attention seems to be switching to Kherson. I was struck a few weeks ago when the Ukrainians started telling people to get out of the region as an attack was coming. It seemed to be telegraphing Ukr intentions to the Russians. It does seem possible that the Ukrainians actually wanted the Russians to rush more force to the area, because the actually were not planning a mass attack, they were planning a deliberate logistics campaign. The more Russian troops the more difficult to supply.
What we have seen in the Donbas the last two weeks since the Ukr govt talked about a counteroffensive, is a deliberate campaign to destroy depots, C/C and now bridges. They seem to be cutting Kherson up into different small ... areas that [the Russians] cant support.
Having already struck bridges that cross the major river in the area, the Dnipro, the Ukr have started striking bridges that link the north and south of the area on the west bank for the RUssians. ...
What might be happening? Just a guess, but actually the Ukrainians are still waiting for a large scale counterattack. They made the Russians send in forces, and now the want to cut them up and attrit them down. Basically theyve made the Russians commit to a killing ground.
And that fits alot of what they have been saying for months. The original guess for the great problem hitting the Russians in soldiers and supplies was late August. The Ukr dont look like they are going to do anything rash.
As long as they have significant advantages in range and accuracy, they will attrit Russian forces down in Kherson, lots of smaller attacks up and down the line to find soft spots (which will occur as Russian logistics and c/c fail)
A few more weeks of this, and you can see Ukraine taking more risks. Strategy might be, Bleed them in the Donbas, Bleed them in Kherson, Defeat them in Kherson.
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1551196068460765184
| | Video by a 🇷🇺 soldier shows men defy their commander & refuse to fight.
📷 by another soldier from the unit showed a basement where they were detained.
Two mothers of men in the unit said 20 soldiers would have to go to martial court. | |
https://twitter.com/nadinbrzezinski/status/1551046055461982209
| | Ok folks, for those of you not following Russian codes*
Cargo 200= dead
Cargo 300= [wounded]
Cargo 500= refusenik <—— this one is brand spanking new
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https://twitter.com/mattia_n/status/1551194676060987392
| | | More than 50,000 women currently serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and of those 5,000 are currently on the front lines, according to #Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Defense Hanna Malyar. | |
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Aus der Zeit online
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krieg-russland-newsblog-live
heute: Wie mache ich meinen Gegner nervös? Das geht geschickt und ungeschickt. Einmal darf man raten welche Partei Probleme mit der Glaubwürdigkeit hat.
Versuch 1, während man mit der einzigen noch laufenden Offensive auf Bachmut nicht so richtig vorwärts kommt:
| | Russland strebt nach den Worten von Außenminister Sergej Lawrow den Sturz der Regierung in Kiew an. "Wir helfen dem ukrainischen Volk auf jeden Fall, sich von dem absolut volks- und geschichtsfeindlichen Regime zu befreien", sagte Lawrow bei einem Besuch in Kairo.
Mit den Äußerungen widersprach Lawrow eigenen Aussagen vom April. "Wir haben nicht vor, das Regime in der Ukraine auszuwechseln", hatte er damals in einem Interview mit dem Sender India Today gesagt.
Die russische Führung hat in den vergangenen Tagen öffentlich ihre Position im Ukraine-Krieg verschärft. So drohte Lawrow am Mittwoch mit der Besetzung weiterer Gebiete auch außerhalb des ostukrainischen Donbass. | |
Versuch 2, gleich nach der Sache mit der Brücke:
| | | Die ukrainischen Truppen würden von der Defensive in die Gegenoffensive wechseln, sagte Chlan. Bis September werde die Region "definitiv befreit" sein. Das ukrainische Militär bereitet demnach eine Bodenoffensive vor. | |
und wo sie schon mal dabei sind:
| | Das ukrainische Verteidigungsministerium fordert Bürger in der Region um die Stadt Enerhodar im Süden des Landes zur Hilfe im Kampf gegen russische Truppen und Kollaborateure auf. "Es ist von hoher Dringlichkeit, dass sie uns bitte die genaue Lage der Stützpunkte der Besatzungstruppen und die Wohnadressen der Truppen (… sowie die Wohnorte der Kommandanten mitteilen", heißt es in einem am Wochenende auf Telegram veröffentlichten Aufruf der Geheimdienstabteilung des Ministeriums.
Die Behörde bittet die Bürger darin auch um Informationen über Kollaborateure und ihre Wohn- und Arbeitsorte. Zudem will der Geheimdienst wissen, wer mit den Besatzern "sympathisiert". "Lasst uns gemeinsam die Besatzer aus unserer Heimat vertreiben", heißt es in dem Aufruf.
Russland hatte Enerhodar Anfang März erobert. Die Stadt hatte vor dem Krieg mehr als 50.000 Einwohner. Anfang Mai wurde ein von den Besatzern ernannter Bürgermeister bei einer Explosion verletzt. | |
Ob die Ukrainer nun kommen um sich die Besatzer zu holen oder nicht: Die Drohung steht im Raum, und die russischen Soldaten können offenbar nicht mehr an allen notwendigen Orten gleichzeitig sein. Und für die Besatzer wird das leben zwischen der eh schon widerspenstigen Bevölkerung jetzt wohl nicht unbedingt angenehmer.
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https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1551364703561162752
| | New: #Ukrainian officials further acknowledged Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in #Kherson Oblast.
Alarm in the #Russian nationalist info space has grown as the pace of Russian operations slows in the face of successful Ukrainian #HIMARS strikes.
The #Kremlin is meanwhile likely facing mounting (if still very limited) domestic dissent from within ethnic minority enclaves, which are disproportionately bearing the brunt of Russian force generation efforts.
http://isw.pub/RusCampaignJuly24
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https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1551108970986848257 | Thread Reader
| | Summary of the daily livestream with Aleksey Arestovych for Day 150, 23 July.
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Duration of the war:
The duration of the war depends on depth of theater, strength of sides, and objectives. 🇷🇺 objectives are way out of their strength.
They have lost war at Strategic level by end of March, when they could not capture Kyiv. Soon they will loose at Operational level, when they won't be able to attack, then at Tactical level, which might not be soon however, as 🇷🇺 has shown incredible stubbornness.
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Perspective for 🇺🇦 success:
Vysykopillia: 🇷🇺 attempting to avoid Battle of Ilovaisk [link]. Disconnect between encircled group and remaining 🇷🇺 forces is small. 🇺🇦 is acting awkwardly, not enough forces to completely surround 🇷🇺. Still need fights to have tactical surrounding. If 🇺🇦 doesn't bring reinforcements, perspective for success can be lost.
Kherson: After damaging Antonovsky bridge (1), 🇺🇦 artillery damaged bridge near Darivka (2), leaving 🇷🇺 supplies coming through Nova Khakovka dam (3) and Snihurivka (4).
Darivka bridge (2) is not completely destroyed, but that might happen soon. 🇷🇺 is considering pontoon bridge, but if that gets 1 hit, it will float away.
It's obviously visible, that 🇺🇦 is seriously working in this direction for 3 weeks with objectives to loosen, break down, and then destroy 🇷🇺 grouping.
Odessa: Looks like it's a simple revenge, as 🇷🇺 tried to force some rules in Istanbul, but failed. Due to 🇷🇺 excuses, it doesn't look like it's going to be systematic, otherwise 🇷🇺 would accuse 🇺🇦 of breaking agreements. Doubtful that 🇷🇺 would continue attacks, or sink ships.
Weapons:
🇩🇪 IRIS-T air-defence said to be delayed - it's just press, they need loud titles. They are not manufactured yet.
🇺🇸 Jake Sullivan said that it's not planned to provide ATACMS (300km) missiles to 🇺🇦. It doesn't mean much, as couple of months ago the same was said about M142 HIMARS and aircraft, now 🇺🇦 pilots are already training.
🇺🇦 has all types of weapons now, aim is to fully rearm to NATO standards.
All announcements about new weapon types are a week or two after they are being used.
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https://twitter.com/EHunterChristie/status/1551242313569079296
| | What does Putin want?
Not primacy in Europe, he knows that is unachievable.
But he wants a partial reconstitution of the old empire, so as to be larger, to have more people, and more resources, on the way to being a partially autarkic major power on the global stage.
For that ambition, Putin is fully ready to accept economic decoupling and diplomatic rupture from the West, to be partly compensated by links with China, India, others. He welcomes the disconnection from influences he views as politically subversive for his power system.
Ideally, Putin would love a splintered Europe so as to still make some money from us and have less resistance from the irritating 'Other'.
And if China could distract America in the Pacific, that would be ideal for him.
Can he be derailed?
Yes. A localised defeat in Ukraine and economic strangulation will limit his options to surrendering, escalating, or withdrawing into isolation.
Putin will choose isolation. It is his second-best option for regime preservation, after his first-best option, victory in Ukraine, which we can and must prevent.
Time will do the rest. But first, Ukraine must win.
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https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1551181711706316801
| | Multiple videos shows thermite incendiaries falling on densely populated civilian areas of central Donetsk – a clear war crime, as such munitions are banned from usage against civilian targets. But this incident raises more questions than answers.
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There have been many instances during the Ukraine war when Russian forces have used 9M22S rockets against Ukrainian targets, including civilian targets.
The latest thermite attack, however, raises some puzzling questions. It appears to have targeted the capital of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR). This is the first incendiary attack I've seen against a Russian or separatist target in this war.
This wasn't a single rocket gone astray. Videos giving a wider view show a lot of submunitions falling, though not as many as would be expected from a full salvo of 40 9M22S, which would disperse 7,200 submunitions.
The location of the attack also wasn't marginal – it was right in the middle of Donetsk city, in the Voroshylovskyi and Kalininskyi districts. This is at least 10 km from the nearest front line, so it's very unlikely this was the result of an attack falling short.
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I think we can therefore conclude from the above that:
1) The Ukrainians have the capability but don't appear to have used 9M22S in this war, suggesting they likely don't have the intent to do so. Likelihood of responsibility: low
2) The Russians and the 'DPR' have the capability, they've repeatedly used 9M22S in the war, and they've carried out several 9M22S attacks near Donetsk, including within the last 10 days.
3) The attack was most likely deliberate, but its purpose can only be guessed at. It may have been intended as a 'false flag' to try to bolster propaganda claims that Ukraine is intent on "genocide" in the Donbas.
4) Why not a full salvo? That may have been intended to limit the damage being caused on the ground (which was likely not trivial anyway, given the nature of the weapon).
5) Given the combination of Russia's record, capabilities and nearby confirmed use of 9M22S, I think the likelihood is high that this was a deliberate attack by Russia or its proxies on its 'own people'.
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https://twitter.com/OleksandrKolym/status/1551263353074601985
https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1551114461032890368
| | | The Russian army in Kharkiv direction is unable to capture even one village. This is evidenced by a new telephone conversation of the invaders, which was intercepted by the SBU. | |
https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1551330361132679170
| | The Russian invader shares the news with his friend (or sister) on how all the cell phone towers nearby were destroyed so that no locals could notify the Ukrainian Armed Forces about movement of the Russian equipment.
Text version: https://wartranslated.com/intercepted-call-from-the-1st-platoon-im-alone-left/
| | (R): All the towers are f*cked, there was a struggle with hohols, basically… all the towers have been f*cked, cameras are f*cked, so no columns could be spotted.
(W): F*cking hell. Are you alive? Not wounded?
(R): Eh… concussed… coming back to Russia soon. I don’t know. I’ll tell you later what’s going on… it’s really f*cked, the left ear has stopped hearing, it’s completely f*cked. In our company… 10 people are left.
(W): F*cking hell, f*ck.
(R): Yes. There were 107 people, 10 remain. From them 4 have left, 6 of us have stayed. From the 1st platoon I’m alone left. In the 1st platoon we’ve had 22 people, I am the only one left. There will be an advance soon, I’m going to it anyway, so ...
(W): You will tell me that when you’re back.
(R): I’m unlikely to be coming back.
(W): If you’re not coming back, Dimka, you are in trouble.
(R): Do you understand… there was an offensive here two days ago, [the 752nd Guards Motor Rifle Regiment] were attacking the ukrops and 25 people died. 25. 25 f*cking guys have died. Simply, 25 have died, all “200” *dead*. It’s a complete slaughter. Total a*s. What they are telling you on the TV, don’t believe it, don’t. It’s a complete a*s here. A f*ckload of dead, a f*ckload of f*cked up tanks, it’s a f*cking a*ss. I’m telling you seriously.
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https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1551294834027249664
| | | A Russian 2S7(M) Pion/Malka 203mm self-propelled howitzer suffered a catastrophic barrel failure - likely due to serious wear. | |
https://twitter.com/CXCarroll/status/1551300421712486400
| | Russian 152mm howitzer in Donetsk about three weeks ago. This is the result of simply firing too many rounds without changing the barrel... which the Russians aren't doing. Can't cheat metallurgy. Expect for this to be widespread over the next month.
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https://twitter.com/general_ben/status/1551298953827713028
| | | Sanctions limiting Russian ability to import high quality steel. Exhausted logistics system limits necessary Barrel replacements. And this situation for Russia will only worsen while Ukrainian logistics gets better each week. | |
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1551248421541101568
| | | Kherson, two burning Russian S-300 TEL vehicles. | |
| | | The S-300 air defense system is defenseless and useless when it comes up against Western military tech. | |
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1551331641800511488
| | Norwegian self-propelled gun M109A3GN firing in a battle against Russians
Ukraine received 22 M109 155mm tracked self-propelled howitzers from Norway in early June. | |
https://twitter.com/JTBcz/status/1551316291121717254
| | Verified: a Czech-supplied (and Russian-made) Mi-35 attack helicopter seen for the first time in action over #Ukraine.
Thanks to tiny details in camo, I managed to confirm this as former CZAF #3362, made in 2004 and very recently completely overhauled. | |
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1551299395404140547
| | | CONFIRMED: Poland has delivered and/or is in the process of delivering an undisclosed number of PT-91 tanks (heavily modified T-72) to Ukraine. This is on top of the 200+ T-72s previously delivered. 🇵🇱🇺🇦💪💪 | |
| | Thanks to 🇺🇸 and 🇰🇷 Poland can send more tanks to Ukraine.
Germany's sabotage failed. | |
https://twitter.com/bctallis/status/1551109641098117121
| | Poland accused Germany of breaking its word about tanks.
What worries me is how this will be dismissed by many in #Germany because
A) they have now gone into fully offended ‘everything we do is wrong’ mode
Or
B) Lingering chauvinism against [Central and Eastern Europe] whose opinions can be dismissed
Both are wrong.
Both are self-defeating & need to change
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https://twitter.com/aufmacher/status/1551191223913824256
| | Sehr starkes @Sicherheitspod-Jubiläum, in dem es auch um die Wahrnehmung Deutschlands geht: „Ich kann nur jedem raten, im europäischen Ausland mit den Leuten zu reden“, sagt @drfranksauer. „Da legt man die Ohren an als Deutscher.“ Und @RikeFranke ergänzt: „Ich bin zunehmend schockiert ob der Reaktion des Kanzlers, der abstreitet, dass es Kritik aus dem Ausland überhaupt gibt.“ Die Folge sei SPD-Parteisoldaten empfohlen, die behaupten, Deutschland handele „in Abstimmung mit Verbündeten“ und die seien hellauf begeistert von uns.
https://sicherheitspod.de/
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Schießen der Heli seine Raketen Ballistisch statt direkt?
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Ja, das scheint wohl doch Doktrin zu sein statt einfach nur Unfähigkeit wie ursprünglich angenommen (siehe das Perun-Video oben). Kann man dann davon ausgehen dass es ne ähnliche Doktrin auf ukrainischer Seite gibt.
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Und damit trifft man was? 
Das sind doch eh nur so putzige kleine Raketen.
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Ist sehr ineffizient, aber weniger kostspielig als den Heli+ Piloten zu verlieren.
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Hier ist das als „in Erprobung“ beschrieben.
| | | Die Auffassungen über Anwendbarkeit und Wirksamkeit bei Nutzung der gegenwärtig in Kampfhubschraubern vorhandenen Visiertechnik (MI-24) gehen stark auseinander. Allerdings kann man davon ausgehen, dass der Angriff aus dem Steigflug dem Wesen des Kampfhubschraubers als hochmobiler Präzisionswaffenträger und der vorgesehenen "Bekämpfung von kleinflächigen, beweglichen Land- und Seeobjekten" zuwiderläuft. | |
http://www.nva-flieger.de/index.php/taktik/arfk/angriffsverfahren-gefechtsordnung.html
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von -=Q=- 8-BaLL am 25.07.2022 11:05]
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Irgendwann gibts keine Panzer, Hubschrauber oder sonstwas mehr, weil jeder Infanterist mit einer 20k¤ Rakete diese auseinander nehmen kann.
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Rückblickend sehr interessanter Artikel (und einige Kommentare) vom 28.1. diesen Jahres, knapp einen Monat vor der Invasion. Spannend was man anscheinend damals alles schon wusste, während manche noch auf eine friedliche Lösung gehofft und an eine "Übung" geglaubt haben..
| | | Russia will invade Ukraine. It is foolish to hope otherwise. Russia has moved every halfway combat-ready unit to the border with Ukraine. This is the largest accumulation of forces since the Warsaw Pact invaded of Czechoslovakia in 1968. In all of its history NATO has never pulled as many troops together as Russia does right now. | |
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| | Zitat von Bregor
Irgendwann gibts keine Panzer, Hubschrauber oder sonstwas mehr, weil jeder Infanterist mit einer 20k¤ Rakete diese auseinander nehmen kann.
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Dinge die seit mindestens 100 Jahren so oder ähnlich immer wieder gesagt werden und nie eingetroffen sind für 500.
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Der Panzer samt drumrum ist ja bekanntlich auch technologisch stehen geblieben 100 Jahre lang
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| | Zitat von Bregor
Irgendwann gibts keine Panzer, Hubschrauber oder sonstwas mehr, weil jeder Infanterist mit einer 20k¤ Rakete diese auseinander nehmen kann.
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Abgesehen von den genannten Punkten haben Hubschrauber ein Alleinstellungsmerkmal das nicht durch andere Technologie ersetzt werden kann. Wenn du Truppen schnell verlegen willst/musst gibts nichts vergleichbares. Flugzeuge brauchen nen Airstrip, alles bodenbasierte ist superlangsam und in vielen Fällen kommst du auch gar nicht von A nach B weil Berge oder Wasser dazwischen ist.
Also ganz speziell auf den Hubschrauber bezogen: nope not gonna happen.
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| | Zitat von Bregor
Irgendwann gibts keine Panzer, Hubschrauber oder sonstwas mehr, weil jeder Infanterist mit einer 20k¤ Rakete diese auseinander nehmen kann.
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Das geht aktuell bei den Russen aber zum großen Teil auch nur so gut, weil sie ihre Panzer falsch einsetzen bzw. Infantrie diese Züge nicht begleitet und zunächst frei macht.
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Mit nem kleinen Seitenhieb.
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Jetzt bloß kein Dauerfeuer.
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| | Zitat von Armag3ddon
Jetzt bloß kein Dauerfeuer.
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Und keine Kapriolen, Rüdigor!
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| | Zitat von Armag3ddon
Jetzt bloß kein Dauerfeuer.
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brrrrrrt in Deutsch.
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| | Zitat von Aspe
| | Zitat von Armag3ddon
Jetzt bloß kein Dauerfeuer.
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brrrrrrt in Deutsch.
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Also brrrrrrrr es sind nur 23° in der Bude im Winter?
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