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Ich sekundiere das.
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Da ich die Aufregung heute morgen nicht verstanden habe: es lief auch gerade genau so im heute Journal.
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Deutschland hätte sich mal ein Beispiel nehmen sollen an Russland und seinen alten Mist auch behalten sollen.
Dann hätte man jetzt +2000 Panzer auf Kante liegen, welche man in Teilen abgeben könnte. 
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es gab doch am Anfang mal dieses Zitat, wonach die Ukraine innerhalb von ein paar Tagen eingenommen sein sollte. Hat das noch jemand griffbereit? War das Putin oder Lawrow?
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Zieht doch einer mal dem Kerl die Hose hoch! 
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Ich warte auf die ersten Videos davon wie einer von denen sich mit einer Granate selbst in die Luft sprengt.
Das die verheizt werden ist eh klar aber das ist ja wirklich so die schlechteste Ausgangsbasis an Rekruten die man sich vorstellen kann.
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Laut Spiegelticker hat Edward Snowden jetzt auch die russische Staatsbürgerschaft - und kann deswegen auch eingezogen werden.
Russland. Not even once.
E: Stimmt so wohl nicht ganz. Sorry, mein Fehler.
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Laut Spiegelticker hat Edward Snowden jetzt auch die russische Staatsbürgerschaft - und kann deswegen auch eingezogen werden.
Russland. Not even once.
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laut tagesschau.de nicht.
| | | Kutscherena zufolge ist Snowden nicht von der von Putin verkündeten Teilmobilmachung betroffen. Er falle nicht in die Kategorie der Bürger, die einberufen werden, da er keine Erfahrung in der russischen Armee habe. | |
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Als wenn darauf wirklich geschaut würde.
Aber "Snowden wird in der Schlacht um den Donbas von der Ukraine gefangen genommen", hatte ich nicht auf meiner 2022 Bingokarte.
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Zumal ich nicht den Eindruck hatte, dass Snowden unbeaufsichtigt unterwegs wäre und daher zufällig eingesackt wird, ohne das andere Exekutive sich meldet und sofort Veto einlegt. Der ist derart wichtiges Faustpfand, der ist so sicher wie Peskows Sohn.
Die Preisfrage ist, wie lange er diesen Pakt mit dem Teufel mitmacht. Ich hoffe ja, dass er mal irgendwann klarstellt und danach handelt, dass Russland mehr Dreck am Stecken hat... 
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Habs schon mit einem Warnhinweis versehen, war zu voreilig.
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Die Preisfrage ist, wie lange er diesen Pakt mit dem Teufel mitmacht. Ich hoffe ja, dass er mal irgendwann klarstellt und danach handelt, dass Russland mehr Dreck am Stecken hat...
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Dafür muss er in Russland (vorerst) nicht ins Gefängnis.
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Aber "Snowden wird in der Schlacht um den Donbas von der Ukraine gefangen genommen", hatte ich nicht auf meiner 2022 Bingokarte.
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Und gegen ein Gros Abrams und Bradleys an die USA ausgeliefert.
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Zumal ich nicht den Eindruck hatte, dass Snowden unbeaufsichtigt unterwegs wäre und daher zufällig eingesackt wird, ohne das andere Exekutive sich meldet und sofort Veto einlegt. Der ist derart wichtiges Faustpfand, der ist so sicher wie Peskows Sohn.
Die Preisfrage ist, wie lange er diesen Pakt mit dem Teufel mitmacht. Ich hoffe ja, dass er mal irgendwann klarstellt und danach handelt, dass Russland mehr Dreck am Stecken hat...
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Dir ist schon klar, dass eine sehr lange Gefängnisstrafe für ihn ein sehr wahrscheinliches Szenario ist, wenn er in die USA geht?
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Was ist an "nun auch" so schwer zu verstehen?
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Dir ist schon klar, dass eine sehr lange Gefängnisstrafe für ihn ein sehr wahrscheinliches Szenario ist, wenn er in die USA geht?
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Ach, nein...?! Was du nicht sagst?
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Die Lage am Oskil (Kupyansk, Lyman) scheint für Außenstehende derzeit unübersichtlich zu sein. Klar ist wohl, dass die Ukraine weiter über den Oskil vorstoßen will, und dass die Russen den Befehl haben, Lyman und jedes Minidorf bis auf den letzten Mann zu verteidigen, statt sich zurückzuziehen wie beim letzten Mal, und dass dort beide Seiten verbissen kämpfen.
"Ukrainische Offensive", "russische Gegenoffensive - zurückgeschlagen", "können heute nichts schreiben, ist geheim..." Mal gucken.
Gestern:
https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1573829395986391041
| | A map of the approximate situation on the ground in Ukraine as of 00:00 25/09/22.
Updates:
🇺🇦 have continued to advance north of Lyman, taken back control of Rubtsi and Lozove, and entered Novoselivka.
It is unclear how far they have been able to advance, there is reportedly fighting ongoing around Karpivka, Ridkodub, and Nove.
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https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1574195167556354049
| | Tonight’s campaign assessment is a special edition focused on Russian military mobilization efforts. Significant inflections ISW would normally cover in its regular sections are summarized briefly below and will be addressed in more detail tomorrow.
https://isw.pub/RusCampaignSeptember25
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https://twitter.com/CarloMasala1/status/1574140665172152320
| | Wenn es stimmt, was grad über #Lyman und #svatove berichtet wird, sowie über den Zusammenbruch der russischen Linien östlich des Oskil, dann ist dass die nächste massive Niederlage für die Russische Föderation.
Ich sagte: wenn es stimmt.
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https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1574468313874403344
| | It is awkward trying to put together a military update when all the most interesting parts are hidden due to opsec.
I actually wanted to get back to a daily format yesterday instead of doing every other day, but I had nothing to write about due to opsec. | |
| | | | | Can you put some commentary around Lyman atm? Seems like a lot is happening there and would be good to get your take. If poss of course | |
It is the area i can talk the least about  | |
| | | > We are at the point where Russia is suffering such staggering losses that any rational country would, at minimum, rethink their military strategy. But instead, Russia is throwing people into combat without any equipment. | |
https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1574180595093078016
| | The rashist defensive line has collapsed at the Donetsk-Kharkiv region boundary and at one, possibly two, points along the Oskil River.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are advancing rapidly on Svatove to begin in earnest the liberation of the north of Luhansk region.
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https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1574433407836327941
| | Across the Oskil River, the Armed Forces of Ukraine advance eastward from Kup'yans'k along the P-07 highway in the direction of Svatove.
Ukrainian defenders control Kup'yans'k-Vuzlovyi, Kucherivka and Petropavlivka. The russian fascist invaders shelled them in these settlements.
On the Oskil River/Battle of Lyman front, the rashists also shelled Ukrainian positions near Kam'yanka, Holubivka, Sen'kove, Novoselivka, Shchurove, Dobrova, Ozerne, Zakitne, Sivers'k and Bilohorivka.
–General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine operational info, 18:00, Sep 26
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https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1574464455668371468
| | Massive artillery duels are underway in the north of the Kharkiv region
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https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1574347989438455808
| | Situation east of Oskil river:
Many settlements towards the north are grey zones.
Majority of the fighting is taking place near Nova and Zelena Dolyna as Ukrainian forces are attempting to flank Lyman from the north.
Both sides are attempting offensives in different points.
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https://twitter.com/ThreshedThought/status/1574406408564506628
| | Ok Lyman looks like the old bait and switch.
Drive flanks north and east of Lyman causing the Russians to reinforce this critical railroad junction (1).
Then drive a much bigger encircling movement to trap the whole lot (2).
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Apparently Putin has ordered everyone to hold their ground.
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Not totally clear hence ‘early reports’ | |
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1574068730920828930
| | Revisiting my prediction from 2 weeks ago: Ukraine is advancing on both predicted axes. Only surprise - the russians decided to defend Lyman and lose their troops there to encirclement... could be the first sign of that "strategic genius" putin giving orders.
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1569056211676299269
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https://twitter.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1574277002424913920
| | The pictures and videos from Kupyansk of a failed Russian counteroffensive are World War II grade (can't share, won't have a Twitter account if we do)
Reports are fresh conscripts, no body armor, lightly armed, charged Ukrainian lines head-on, no tactics, it was a massacre
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https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1574100889832398851
| | Russian forces have made a fatal decision to defend Lyman at all costs.
Maybe they will understand what Mariupol defenders went through soon.
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https://twitter.com/Teoyaomiquu/status/1574118803264638976
| | Russia keeps throwing its troops into the meat grinder near Kupyansk and Lyman.
A lot of them refuse to follow orders.
Some battalions have no vehicles at all. Pure infantry battalions are formed. | |
https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1574265869097738241
| | Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 26 September 2022
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https://twitter.com/stavridisj/status/1574210983479984129
| | CORRECTION. Earlier reports suggesting that Russian conscripts get only one day of training before being sent to front may be incorrect. New report says they get ZERO days.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1574170287406567428
| | General Staff: Russia sends newly mobilized conscripts directly to frontline.
Conscripts do not undergo any military training before being sent to the war against Ukraine, Ukraine's General Staff said.
With this step, Russian military commanders aim to replenish units that have suffered colossal losses. | |
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https://twitter.com/ItsArtoir/status/1573842735898951680
| | GulagU have reported on their telegram channel that Prigozhin’s convicts have been a complete disaster for Russia.
Their source claims they have been mostly used to augment decimated VDV units and their combat effectiveness has been “about zero.”
Thousands of the convicts have died and hundreds are in hospital missing limbs.
They are abandoning the scheme completely now that mobilisation is in force.
“Prigozhin will either be arrested or in an accident”
Correction: Their placement with the VDV is most likely to minimise desertions - @VDV_Textbooks recently talked about them being used as barrier troops for demoralised Russian infantry. So not integrating with the unit directly. | |
U.S. Congress negotiators set $12 bln for new Ukraine aid | Reuters
| | Negotiators to a stop-gap spending bill in the U.S. Congress have agreed to include about $12 billion in new aid to Ukraine in response to a request from the Biden administration, a source familiar with the talks said on Monday.
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https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1574180069718859777
| | #Ukraine received the promised on Sept 16 first anti-air batteries NASAMS from the US, said President @ZelenskyyUa in his interview for @CBSNews. They will help to protect the #Ukrainian sky from Russian missiles and aircraft.
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Today, the press secretary of Zelensky declined that #Ukraine received #NASAMS. He said that, yes, Zelensky said for CBS that "Ukraine received NASAMS" but he meant a different thing - a mere decision to receive them, and NASAMS aren't in Ukraine.
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etwas älterer Thread über NASAMS:
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1541209442921811968 | Thread Reader
| | Reports ... that the US is planning to provide NASAMS air defence missile systems to Ukraine are a big deal, if true. Here's why.
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https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1574107021988839426
| | Private Roman Glomba was awarded the title Hero of Ukraine for shooting down SIX enemy planes.
Our golden MANPADS.
Congratulations to our colleagues
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https://twitter.com/ER_MV/status/1574105250524532743 | Thread Reader
| | Einer Demo, die heute in #Lubmin erneut die Öffnung von Nord Stream 2 forderte, stellten sich heute drei Ukrainerinnen entgegen - sie wurden abgedrängt, ihre Schilder entrissen. Ein kurzer Thread
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hat eigentlich einer infos was (aktuell) mit belarus ist?
das einzige, was ich im kopf hab ist, dass vor monaten von dort aus russische truppen in die ukraine vorgerückt sind.
dann "hieß es", dass es unter den militärs in belarus selbst gerappelt hätte und deswegen deren truppen nicht mobil gemacht wurde.
das wars dann, was ich weiß.
haben die sich damit komplett aus dem aktiven teil des konflikts rausgehalten?
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hat eigentlich einer infos was (aktuell) mit belarus ist?
das einzige, was ich im kopf hab ist, dass vor monaten von dort aus russische truppen in die ukraine vorgerückt sind.
dann "hieß es", dass es unter den militärs in belarus selbst gerappelt hätte und deswegen deren truppen nicht mobil gemacht wurde.
das wars dann, was ich weiß.
haben die sich damit komplett aus dem aktiven teil des konflikts rausgehalten?
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Die haben dann später noch eifrig Übungen nahe der ukrainischen Grenze gemacht - wohl, um ukrainische Truppen dort für einen eventuellen Angriff zu binden.
Aber ein direktes Eingreifen ist wohl unwahrscheinlich, glaube ich. Lukashenko hat wohl selber nicht so viele Truppen, und er ist im Land unbeliebt, konnte sich in der Vergangenheit nur durch Putins Unterstützung an der Macht halten.
Wer weiß, was passieren würde, wenn er versuchen würde, die belarussischen Truppen in die Ukraine zu schicken.
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Direkt in meine Venen bitte. Die freie Welt braucht mal einen Win.
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hat eigentlich einer infos was (aktuell) mit belarus ist?
das einzige, was ich im kopf hab ist, dass vor monaten von dort aus russische truppen in die ukraine vorgerückt sind.
dann "hieß es", dass es unter den militärs in belarus selbst gerappelt hätte und deswegen deren truppen nicht mobil gemacht wurde.
das wars dann, was ich weiß.
haben die sich damit komplett aus dem aktiven teil des konflikts rausgehalten?
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Was Belarus betrifft, ist das Thema in der Schwebe.
Lukaschenko könnte noch jederzeit entscheiden mit in den Krieg direkt einzutreten, gilt aber doch für relativ unwahrscheinlich.
Als Russland ihre verdeckte Mobilisierung mit Freiwilligen gemacht hat, waren bereits zahlreiche Soldaten aus Belarus mit in den Krieg gezogen, zusammen mit den russischen.
Das waren die, die selbst kämpfen wollten. Der Rest ist der Teil, der Lukaschenko noch mal ein richtiges Gerappel geben könnte, wenn er diesen an die ukrainische Front schickt.
Dazu könnte es noch Proteste gegen den Krieg geben, in der Bevölkerung, mit denen Lukaschenko dann ohne kräftige Armee, nicht fertig wird.
Er könnte dann von beiden Seiten starken Druck bekommen und seine Machtposition komplett verlieren, wenn er Putin folgt. Deswegen wird er wohl weiterhin selbser still bleiben.
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hat eigentlich einer infos was (aktuell) mit belarus ist?
das einzige, was ich im kopf hab ist, dass vor monaten von dort aus russische truppen in die ukraine vorgerückt sind.
dann "hieß es", dass es unter den militärs in belarus selbst gerappelt hätte und deswegen deren truppen nicht mobil gemacht wurde.
das wars dann, was ich weiß.
haben die sich damit komplett aus dem aktiven teil des konflikts rausgehalten?
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Es geht noch weiter. Belarus hat laut einer Mitteilung, die ich heute mittag las, aber leider gerade nicht zitieren kann, wurden wohl Exportverbote (also Russland) auf mehr als 200 waren, darunter Autos und Teile. Wenn das stimmt, leiden die auch und versuchen sich zu retten.
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https://twitter.com/denistrubetskoy/status/1573282516101988353
| | Im Prinzip haben die ersten Tage alle Befürchtungen bestätigt: Von einer Teilmobilmachung kann in Russland keine Rede sein. Im Prinzip kann jeder eingezogen werden, die tatsächlichen Vorgaben, was die Zahl der Mobilisierten angeht, kennt niemand. Ich würde auf "Teil" verzichten.
Übrigens, viele Menschen haben realitätsferne Vorstellungen, was die Generalmobilmachung als Begriff angeht, auch im Bezug auf die Ukraine. Der Anteil der Männer, die physisch zur gleichen Zeit bewaffnet & versorgt werden können, ist in jedem Land nicht so groß wie manche denken.
Im Falle Russlands würde ich als Journalist einfach Mobilmachung schreiben, ohne "Teil", aber vorerst auch ohne "General". Der Begriff "Teilmobilmachung" ist jedenfalls offensichtlich nur eine rhetorische Beruhigungsmaßnahme für das eigene Volk.
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https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1574173974317219845
| | Difficult with reliability of figures, but it looks as if more than a quarter of a million people have left 🇷🇺 in just a couple of days.
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https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1573810528132153344
| | Zelensky offers guarantees for Russian soldiers who surrender:
1) To be treated in a civilized manner,
2) the circumstances of their surrender will remain undisclosed,
3) Ukraine will ensure those who do not want to return to Russia are not exchanged
Zelensky offers guarantees for Russian soldiers who surrender
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https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1573765504812081152
| | Arestovych now says Ukraine can mobilise up to 5.5 million people in response to the Russian mobilisation.
We are heading for WWII-scale carnage in this war.
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https://twitter.com/InsiderEng/status/1574334393732284417
| | What is going on in front of the Upper Lars border crossing: drone footage
Many kilometer traffic jams, drivers wait in front of the border for 40-50 hours. Scuffles keep sparking from time to time in the queue
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1574341388602408962
| | Heard stories of people actually selling places in the line – you get in the line and then start auctioning off seats in your car on Telegram
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https://twitter.com/AlexKhrebet/status/1574429338153340929
https://twitter.com/nadinbrzezinski/status/1574420480634691584
| | Citizens of the Russian Federation were allowed to cross the border with Georgia on foot. A traffic jam at the border crossing in Upper Lars stretched for a couple of tens of kilometers.
At some point, an armored personnel carrier with Russian conscripts arrived there, but they did not detain anyone, the FSB state border service officially announced that an additional checkpoint was planned to be organized there.
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Reuters-Russlandreporter:
https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1574132126206812160
| | Five days into Russia’s mobilisation, and it’s far easier to count the male friends and acquaintances who have stayed in Russia than those who’ve scattered to Armenia, Turkey, Kazakhstan. An exodus of unimaginable scale; a society coming apart at the seams.
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City dwellers? Well off/poor? Big or small city? Moscow? | |
https://twitter.com/russophiliac/status/1574406352662716416
| | Been talking to families of conscriptable men all day. Unfortunately this is Feb22 all over again. Massive denial and cognitive dissonance and little media coverage of anything beyond the abstract phrase "partial mobilization". That first word seems to key to magical thinking.
Partial =частичная : 'of a part'. Some distant/vague part. People imagine a huge army and reserve that is just lying around for the govt to mobilize.
The reality is that in my village they already handed papers to the only man in 20s today.
The local priest told me. He was a veteran conscript sapper. I don't have info on his views but like many he seems to be resigned to obeying orders. It would be cowardly and risk big loss of social status to somehow draft dodge.
There's not even a 'my country right or wrong'. Media consumption still key: All his relatives consume only mainstream media. They still don't see it as anything other than heroic and limited action against evil. Minimal risks. Big benefits.
'we're winning' his mom told me. 'it's not long to wait now. We have the energy weapon. Look at Italy!' A man in his 60s. 'Italy like in WWI will realise they're on the wrong side!' Everyone I speak to raises the wonder-weapon topic: 'is it true your governments will fall because of lack of our gas?'
I very calmly say 'No, there is a high degree of consensus on supporting Ukraine'.
Like I wrote last few days: this is the only way I can break the spell, but it's only momentary. Even academic colleagues who in Feb though it utter folly and tragedy are hardening their views and also reaching for the magic thought: 'what if econ pain can divide our enemies?'
So I still stand by my thesis of continuing "Defensive Consolidation". See this post from a while back: ...
The long and the short: things move so slowly with total control of the public sphere. People not already informed are not as susceptible to the "sarafan radio" (rumour) as before because this is a society already frog-boiled dry.
Yes people in Dagestan and elsewhere can leverage ethnic cohesion and alternative sources of authority to resist but this so far is not scalable.
Also there was big school shooting. this and elections in Italy, Referenda, anf repeats of Lavrov at the UN are the news stories.
There's a story about those drafted keeping their work places but this is craftily presented via the zoom conference of the PM and other technocrat ministers. Most people turn off and don't understand the underlying significance.
So like in the past with targeted repression of opposition, mobilization works by targeting 'easy' and 'disarmed' victims. Including those naifs who would not want to be subject to social sanctions of their community (opposite of Dagestan).
I can't overstate the spellbinding power of media presentation of "special operation" by prof army. 'Leonid Viktorovich' my oldest informant has a son, 38 in the 'reserve' list as radio operator... 'Why draft him? They don't need people like that' is his self-reassuring comment.
Are you sure Leonid V? Once more we have Schrödinger's war paradox. Simultaneously a limited and distant special operation AND an existential world war to destroy Russian civilization. No one willingly lifts the lid of the box to look inside so Russians are able to believe both.
If 300k do get mobilized (which is a tall order) then maybe the war becomes more real. Whether this is good or bad is hard to say. Thought for another time: 'instead of writing off Russian public we desperately need efforts to open channels of quality alternative info.
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https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1573255175443460096
| | One boy, just *17 yrs old*, told me how he went to the protest against mobilisation, was detained, and in the police station was given a document that legally obliged him to go to the military enlistment office with his documents.
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https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1574134953503297537
| | If this is widely representative of the "partial mobilisation" the Russian casualty rate is about to increase dramatically:
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Mediazona talked to a woman who said her 45-year-old husband was mobilized and is being sent to the front with another 1k men after only one day of training with the 3rd Motorized Rifle Division's 237th Tank Regiment. | |
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https://twitter.com/ilya_shepelin/status/1574366320786903042
| | From a subscriber - they didn’t let him out of Vnukovo to Turkey, like a hundred more people with him
“They are sent home. Tickets to different resorts, some bought even in summer. With children, without children, with wives, with girlfriends, it doesn’t matter at all.”
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https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1573401305888223238
| | Depressing prediction: after a few days of turmoil and protest, things will die down in Russia. The flow of men leaving will stop. People will be mobilized and sent to the front, just as underprepared as those already there. They won’t revolt en masse.
A few will surrender. We’ll get very excited and say that heralds the downfall of the Russian state. But the rest will do what they’re told.
We’re making a *lot* of excited guesses about regime stability and consequences based on a wave of social media virality created mostly by those in the West.
This is the MO of Putin’s state: clumsy, messy, controversial, but somehow always bungles through problems thanks to its media networks and enthusiastic supporters.
If change comes, it’s certainly not coming from below. Those boys being herded onto planes and buses don’t look desperate to seize any chance to make their escape.
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Anti-mobilisation protests spread in Russia | FT
| | Men seeking to escape being drafted rush to borders with Georgia, Finland, Kazakhstan and Mongolia
Protests across Russia continued over the weekend against President Vladimir Putin’s decision to mobilise the armed forces’ reserves, in the starkest sign of popular discontent since he ordered the invasion of Ukraine in February.
Locals in Dagestan, an impoverished, mostly Muslim region in the mountainous North Caucasus, blocked off a highway and clashed with police as they chanted “No to war!”, according to videos posted on social media by local activists.
The unrest, which comes as public opposition to the war has been outlawed and made punishable with up to 15 years in prison, points to widespread anger at Putin’s decision to call up hundreds of thousands of men into the Russian army, its first military mobilisation since the second world war.
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https://twitter.com/AlexKhrebet/status/1573987792585203713
| | The final collapse of Russia will start in the northern Caucasus.
Video: anti-mobilization protests in Dagestan
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https://twitter.com/athmrva/status/1573996937732292608
https://twitter.com/InaRuck/status/1574037236252753921
| | Schier unglaubliche Szene, soll Dagestan sein: "Warum nehmt ihr unsere Jungs mit?"
"Wo wurde Russland denn angegriffen? Es ist andersrum, Russland hat die Ukraine angegriffen"
"Nein zum Krieg". Angeblich weitere Proteste in Dagestan, von dort stammen viele Reservisten u Soldaten
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1573888881530994688
| | A largely female protest against mobilization in Yakutsk, far eastern Russia. They’re chanting “Give us our grandfathers back!”
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https://twitter.com/rajdianos/status/1573979919704530951
| | Residents of the Kumyk aul of Endirey blocked the road and did not allow the young people to be transported to participate in the military operation. The police have to shoot in the air to calm people down.
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https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1574409968433987584
| | Protests across the North Caucasus today against Russia's mobilization, including this one in the capital of Kabardino-Balkaria
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Nalchik, a woman screams at an official: You send our children there, and then they burn in tanks.
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https://twitter.com/fatimatlis/status/1574051292611317760
| | Six busses from a small Dagestan town, watch with the sound on. The busses have a sign “to Sevastopol” that is a strong indication that there will be no training just cannon fodder. Moscow also deployed thousands of riot police from Buryatiya to North Caucasus as “order keepers.”
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1574298101313060864
| | Drafting offices continue to be set on fire in Russia.
Uryupinsk, Volgograd region - a 35 year old man began throwing Molotov cocktails at the drafting offce's building.
It is reported that documentation about draftees is done solely on paper.
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1574409641366552577
| | Excellent conditions in authentic wooden barracks for your ultimate Russian army experience! Some pay huge money for this!
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1574419047965687808
| | Only top quality equipment and living conditions for the mobiks!
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1574498669562413064
| | No beds for mobiks, this one refuses to stay and decides to go home. Hey, at least it looks like it's quite dry in there!
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1574488787400507416
| | Soldiers, most likely L/DPR guys, are sitting in the forest on the frontline, complaining about how they were dumped with no food or water, only with assault rifles.
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1574483334679478284
| | A woman, who appears to be with long-term military experience, is giving instructions to mobiks on what to take with them. This includes everything that is not armour and uniform, that is, tourniquets, medicines, and women's pads.
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unbegreiflich, was da abgeht. wirklich un-fucking-fassbar.
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Ist sicher eine tolle Idee denen allen Gewehre in die Hand zu drücken.
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Es wird gemunkelt genau deswegen hat Belarus sich nicht aktiv am Krieg beteiligt.
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| Thema: Allgemeine Diskussion zum Ukraine Krieg |
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