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E: 
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Mach mal ein Interview in Oberbayern mit Rentnern bezüglich den Grünen….
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Da baucht man allerdings auch Untertitel mit Übersetzung...
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Mach mal ein Interview in Oberbayern mit Rentnern bezüglich den Grünen….
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Alter! Ich bin Ex-Bayer, aufgewachsen in der tiefen bayrischen Provinz, und habe von damals noch viele Freunde und Bekannte. Was manche von denen auf Facebook posten geht unter keine Kuhhaut. Könnte genauso aus Bautzen oder Chemnitz sein.
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Was schwurbelt ihr euch da gerade zusammen? Ich bekomm irgendwie grad die Kurve von dem Video zu bayerische CSU-Nazirentner nicht hin
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da kum i her do will i wegg
(sie hörten diesen Satz in der Stimme Hubert Aiwangers)
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Oiwonger, so viel Zeit muss sein!
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Oiwanker, Nachfahre des berühmten Ephraim Wanker, aus Tittenkofen.
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Was schwurbelt ihr euch da gerade zusammen? Ich bekomm irgendwie grad die Kurve von dem Video zu bayerische CSU-Nazirentner nicht hin
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Die Kurve ist eine Gerade, lediglich die Zeitachse ist in Russland eine andere.
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Ne, also ich fand an dem Video jetzt nicht interessant dass es in Russland wie überall auch derb miese Menschen gibt, sondern wie da in der internen Argumentation dieser Krieg und die Mobilisierung rationalisiert wird, insofern man das so nennen mag.
Speziell dass Frauen immer den "Schutz des Vaterlandes" nennen und je älter desto mehr "ist halt Pflicht (aber ich bin zu alt, hihi)". Und wie die Narrative von Nazi-Ukrainern, Nato-Soldaten usw. alle vorhanden sind aber nicht bei jedem alle usw.
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| | | Iran has declared that it does not recognize the so-called "referendums" organized by Russia in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, reports the spokesman of the Iranian Foreign Ministry Nasser Kanaani — IRNA. | |
Immerhin Nordkorea aber!
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| | | Iran has declared that it does not recognize the so-called "referendums" organized by Russia in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, reports the spokesman of the Iranian Foreign Ministry Nasser Kanaani — IRNA. | |
Immerhin Nordkorea aber!
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Machen sie dann nachdem sie alle Demonstranten erschossen oder totgeschlagen haben
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Ne, also ich fand an dem Video jetzt nicht interessant dass es in Russland wie überall auch derb miese Menschen gibt, sondern wie da in der internen Argumentation dieser Krieg und die Mobilisierung rationalisiert wird, insofern man das so nennen mag.
Speziell dass Frauen immer den "Schutz des Vaterlandes" nennen und je älter desto mehr "ist halt Pflicht (aber ich bin zu alt, hihi)". Und wie die Narrative von Nazi-Ukrainern, Nato-Soldaten usw. alle vorhanden sind aber nicht bei jedem alle usw.
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Dafür argumentieren sich die bayrischen renter die Zerstörung der kompletten menschlichen Lebensgrundlage schön.
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Ne, also ich fand an dem Video jetzt nicht interessant dass es in Russland wie überall auch derb miese Menschen gibt, sondern wie da in der internen Argumentation dieser Krieg und die Mobilisierung rationalisiert wird, insofern man das so nennen mag.
Speziell dass Frauen immer den "Schutz des Vaterlandes" nennen und je älter desto mehr "ist halt Pflicht (aber ich bin zu alt, hihi)". Und wie die Narrative von Nazi-Ukrainern, Nato-Soldaten usw. alle vorhanden sind aber nicht bei jedem alle usw.
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Dafür argumentieren sich die bayrischen renter die Zerstörung der kompletten menschlichen Lebensgrundlage schön.
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Wenn man sich die Wahlen auf Bundesebene anguckt kann das kein exklusiv bayerisches Problem sein 
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'Murica liefert wieder.
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Man ist schlecht gelaunt
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ok, also fassen wir mal zusammen
wir kämpfen gegen nato
aber die entscheider im militär entscheiden scheisse
es läuft kacke
leider keine todesstrafe für die, die militärisch entscheiden
ja, so kommt putin in russland gut raus
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Die Untertitel der letzten 20 Sekunden dieser Rede muss man nicht einmal für eine Downfall-Parodie abändern, sondern kann die einfach so stehen lassen.
Da muss jemandes Dosis von Copium wirklich massiv erhöht werden.
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Sportliche Rhetorik da bei der "Feier".
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tja, offensichtlich wurde der Ton der jubelnden Menschen nur dazugemischt. Wenn man es weiß, dann merkt man auch ganz am Ende Unstimmigkeiten im Sound.
Realität war so:
im direkten Vergleich:
https://twitter.com/shore2021/status/1576177085822877696
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Close.
| | Top Russian officials are rallying around Tesla CEO Elon Musk following his commentary Monday that Ukraine should be “neutral” as Russia continues to wage war in the country.
Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev said that Musk should be given an award for his comments.
“Musk did well, by the way. He’s worthy of being awarded with a new officer rank out of order,” Medvedev said.
The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said that he was glad Musk was proposing this peace deal.
“In fact, it is very positive that a person like Elon Musk is looking for a peaceful way out of the crisis,” Peskov said, adding that the proposals “deserve attention.” | |
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-gushes-over-elon-musk-as-heroic-russian-officer-after-controversial-ukraine-war-tweets?ref=home
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https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1577324136220839937
| | As things are moving fast on the Kherson front I drew up a few maps to explain the situation.
A short thread🧵:
In Kherson the russians hold a sizeable bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnipro river (shaded red), which could only be supplied by two bridges, one just a bit North of Kherson and the other over the dam at Nova Kakhovka (purple pentagons).
Since the arrival of M142 HIMARS both crossing have been pounded heavily by Ukrainian forces.
Since August the Antonovsky bridge near Kherson is impassable for vehicles (photo), while the dam at Nova Kakhovka is still passable for trucks, but not heavy vehicles (photo).
Over the last month Ukraine has been wearing the russian forces in Kherson down: through artillery fire, constant probing attacks, drone attacks, and by destroying their ammo and supplies. russia brought in pontoons to supply its forces in the South near Kherson (photo), but thanks to HIMARS Ukraine has been hitting and sinking these pontoons.
Now Ukraine went on the offensive in the North and quickly overran the starving, demoralized russian forces there.
This is the same map as in tweet 1, but seeing this map makes it easier to understand Ukraine's initial attacks (blue arrows):
One attack pierced the russian line near the Dnipro, using the 5 km wide river to cover its eastern flank. At the same time Ukrainian troops attacked from their Inhulets bridgehead - thus fixing the russians forces there in place.
Meeting little resistance Ukrainian forces pushed South to Dudchany. This meant that the russian troops still holding the front in the North are now at risk of being encircled. The latest news indicate that these russians are already fleeing from there (red arrows).
Kherson is steppe = a flat landscape with some thin treelines as only cover. There are no natural barriers, which makes it impossible for the russians to set up an improvised defensive line.
The russians can't stop retreating until the next natural barrier: either the Dnipro river or the Inhulets river
(Photo of the landscape in northern Kherson - ideal armored warfare country)
Retreating over the Dnipro Nova Kakhovka would make more sense for the russians, as here their trucks and light vehicles can still cross and once on the left bank the russians could set up a defensive line to secure the rear of their forces fighting in Zaporizhzhia.
The other option is to retreat South to the Inhulets river (blue line).
Retreating to the Inhulets would be what a complete moron does... so the russians will do it.
Let's look again at the map with the second phase of the operation in Kherson: the russians retreat either over the Nova Kakhovka dam or over the Inhulets river:
If they retreat over the dam they will have to leave all their heavy vehicles behind, if they retreat over the Inhulets they will have to abandon most of their vehicles for lack of fuel.
And if the russians retreat over the Inhulets, the Ukrainians can cross the Dnipro and establish a bridgehead on the left bank, from which they can attack towards Crimea and Melitopol. At Kakhovka they can also cut the water to Crimea.
In short the russians only have bad options (putin the "strategic genius" at it again).
Some russians will flee over the Nova Kakhovka dam, but most will retreat over the Inhulets... and as said that's the most moronic option, because then the russians there will be boxed in by Ukrainian troops from three sides, with M777 howitzers able to hit almost every spot, and AHS Krab, PzH 2000, Zuzana 2 and CAESAR able to hit every spot.
And the only supply line will be pontoons, whose landing spots on both sides of the Dnipro are in Ukrainian artillery range.
Retreating over the Inhulets is retreating into a death trap. Once Ukrainian M777 can hit the pontoons no ammo, no fuel, no food - nothing will reach the 15,000 russians stuck there. It's starve to death or freeze to death or surrender for them.
And they can't flee across the Antonovsky bridge as Ukrainian spotters will see them & artillery will shred them.
And in fall/winter they can't swim across the 1 km wide Dnipro river with its freezing water, as that would mean death by hypothermia.
putin just annexed Kherson, so he refuses to give it up... which means he has doomed all the russian troops there to death.
This is a textbook example how a smart, capable, flexible, motivated army can use terrain, enemy incompetence, and operational art to beat a cretinously led army.
We're gonna see more of this, because putin is a moron and General Zaluzhnyi is a genius.
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https://twitter.com/lilygrutcher/status/1577409181405294592
| | | 125,000 Ukrainian soldiers involved in Ukrainian counter-offensive in Kherson province. | |
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1577395712341512206
| | In this intercepted call, a slightly agitated Russian soldier is complaining about the lack of warm clothes and deadly objectives set to them by "always drunk retard commanders".
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Bildzeitungsredakteur
https://twitter.com/ronzheimer/status/1577333601112395776
| | | We just saw a German Gepard crossing our way (couldnt film due to security) close to frontline in Kharkiw region. Ukrainian soldiers told us they help them a lot with air defense. | |
Ein anderer Bildzeitungsredakteur hatte aufgrund der ersten Bilder aus der Region Kherson eine Prognose gewagt damals, die... wohl etwas verfrüht war
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1577558785144635393
https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1577344415500320770
| | BREAKING: Biden administration confirms new $625M package of weapons for Ukraine.
Includes:
-4 HIMARS launchers and ammo
-16 155mm Howitzers;
-75,000 155mm artillery rounds;
-500 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
-1,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems
-16 105mm Howitzers;
-30,000 120mm mortar rounds;
-200 MaxxPro Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles;
-200,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
-Obstacle emplacement equipment;
-Claymore anti-personnel munitions
-Field equipment.
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Deepstatemap.live - täglich aktualisierte Karte der Ukraine
https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1577296418334822403
| | If your theory is that a state invaded by a nuclear neighbor should surrender because of the risk the invader will violate the nuclear taboo if it loses, the logical corollary is that *every state* has to rush to acquire nukes.
Also, very obviously, Russia stands to gain from nuclear scaremongering and risks *immense* consequences from actually using even a small tactical weapon, so *don't amplify the scaremongering* and listen to the people who actually watch positioning, not the Telegraph.
Also! even if you think the most likely outcome of the war is a negotiated peace, Ukrainian victories put Kyiv in a far stronger position to negotiate the terms of that peace and degrade the future war-making capabilities of the invading fascist state. Which is good!
Should go without saying but apparently has to be said: the United States has lost to non-nuclear states and not nuked anybody as a result. So did the Soviet Union. So did *France.* (There *was* discussion of using nuclear weapons in Vietnam.)
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1577574907323600896
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Ist das schon ein Meme.
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https://twitter.com/chambersharold8/status/1577551908276998145
Am meisten fertig macht mich, neben der puren Existenz dieses Dingens, die Tatsache dass er das bei offiziellen Terminen da rumstehen hat. Warum nicht gleich das Bett mit Flecken, bei dem Decke und Kissen noch nicht gemacht sind?
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Ist die nicht auf der Flucht?
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von DeChOsEn am 05.10.2022 10:52]
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