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Habe ich einen Knick in der Optik, oder sind die Proportionen der Ruder bzw. Stabilisierungsflächen zwischen den beiden Bildern unterschiedlich?
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Das untere ist auch nur ein Render, oder?
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Bei dem unteren Bild is alles mögliche Schepp, eventuell ein Render wo dann jemand nochmal ziemlich unbeholfen in 2D dran rumgefummelt hat (für Prospekte o.ä.)
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Tatsächlich keine Poli-grade Illustration
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(der Podcast von letztens jetzt mit Bild für die visuellen Hörer sozusagen)
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Poliadversum am 19.10.2022 16:08]
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Man soll ja hier auf Memes eigentlich verzichten.
Ich konnte aber nicht widerstehen, ein mir zufällig vorgeschlagenes Video zu übersetzen.
Es passt soooo gut in die politische Situation in Russland. 
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Russische Telegramquellen zeigen stolz die neue Verteidigungslinie im Donbass:
Vergessen dabei aber scheinbar, wo diese "neue" Linie liegt:
Quelle
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Aus der Quelle: Russian channels are proudly showing off the scale of new defensives lines that have been prepared by Wagner in occupied Donbas.
They don't seem to have noticed it appears to be to defending mostly pre Feb 24th positions.
Would seem they don't expect to hold Northern Luhansk.
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Möglicherweise kommt man in der russischen Armee langsam auf den Trichter, dass man die ganze neu eingenommene Oblast Luhansk militärisch nicht halten kann und zieht bereits weit hinter der eigentlichen Front, die Verteidigung rechtzeitig hoch.
Man sieht bei Svatova und Starobilsk, dass dort abermals wichtige Knotenpunkte sind, die an Schnellstraßen und Zugverbindungen angeschlossen sind.
Wenn die weg sind, kann Russland die Luhansk Oblast nicht halten, außer das alte Territorium, was ohnehin schon stark befestigt wurde.
Ich weiß nur nicht, wie Putin das politisch verkraften soll, wenn Cherson und der große Teil von Luhansk wieder verloren gehen, die man bereits zu Russland annektiert hat.
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In der NZZ gab es vor einigen Tagen einen Gastkommentar von Timothy Snyder. Ist lesenswert.
Zur Person:
| | | Timothy David Snyder ist ein US-amerikanischer Historiker und Professor an der Yale University. Außerdem ist er Permanent Fellow am Wiener Institut für die Wissenschaften vom Menschen. Seine Forschungsschwerpunkte sind Osteuropäische Geschichte und Holocaustforschung. | |
Wenn die Realität die Regie übernimmt – wie der Ukraine-Krieg ohne nukleare Eskalation zu einem Ende finden könnte
| | Mit seiner Drohung, Atomwaffen einzusetzen, verstrickt Putin die westliche Öffentlichkeit in ein psychologisches Spiel, das deren klares Urteil trüben soll. Will man wissen, wie der Krieg enden könnte, sollte man den Spuren der Logik der Macht im Kreml nachgehen.
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| | Wenn in Russland der Kampf um die Macht ausbricht, braucht Putin gar keinen Vorwand, um sich aus der Ukraine zurückzuziehen – er wird es für sein eigenes politisches Überleben tun.
Aber wie gelangen wir dahin? Der Krieg könnte auf unterschiedliche Arten und Weisen enden. Es sei hier ein plausibles Szenario skizziert, das sich in nächster Zeit entrollen könnte (natürlich gibt es noch andere). Es besteht darin, dass eine russische konventionelle Niederlage in der Ukraine unmerklich in einen russischen Machtkampf übergeht, der wiederum einen russischen Rückzug aus der Ukraine nach sich zieht. Dies ist, historisch gesehen, ein sehr bekanntes Modell.
Doch zunächst gilt es, die nukleare Option beiseitezuräumen. Wenn wir ganz allgemein von einem möglichen Atomkrieg sprechen, stellen wir uns vor, dass es im russisch-ukrainischen Krieg vor allem um uns geht. Wir fühlen uns wie Opfer, wir sprechen über unsere Ängste und Befürchtungen. Die Zeitungen schreiben Clickbait-Artikel über das Ende der Welt. Der Ukraine-Krieg aber wird mit ziemlicher Sicherheit nicht mit einem atomaren Schlagabtausch enden. Einige Staaten mit Atomwaffen haben seit 1945 Kriege geführt und verloren, ohne sie einzusetzen. Atommächte erleiden demütigende Niederlegen in Ländern wie Vietnam oder Afghanistan und zünden dennoch keine Atomwaffen.
Sicherlich gibt es eine gewisse Versuchung, sich mental einer nuklearen Erpressung zu beugen. Sobald das Thema Atomkrieg aufgeworfen wird, scheint es von überwältigender Bedeutung zu sein, und wir verzweifeln und werden besessen. Genau dahin versucht Putin uns mit seinen vagen Anspielungen auf den Einsatz von Atomwaffen hinzubiegen. Er bringt uns dazu, uns Dinge vorzustellen, mit denen Russland gar nicht droht. Wir beginnen über eine ukrainische Kapitulation zu sprechen, nur um den psychologischen Druck abzubauen, den wir spüren. | |
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| | Zitat von DeChOsEn
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63294698
| | The US says it agrees with Western allies that Iran's supply of explosive drones to Russia violates UN sanctions.
Kyiv was struck by so-called "kamikaze" drones on Monday, unleashed by Russia but believed to be Iranian-made.
The US agrees with the French and British assessment that the drones violate UN Security Council Resolution 2231, the US State Department said.
That resolution, linked to Iran's nuclear accord, bars Iranian transfers of certain military technologies. | |
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Jetzt mal losgelöst vom Rest: hat das Abkommen noch irgendeinen Wert nachdem der Orangene das aufgekündigt hat und neue Sanktionen verhängt hat? Wäre ich der Iran würde ich das wertlose Stück Papier ziemlich genau in dem Ausmaß ignorieren in dem es der echte Iran auch macht.
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| | Zitat von -=Q=- 8-BaLL
Der Obermacker der Region Cherson bietet Frankreich und Teilen von D(?) den Beitritt zu Russland an. Es gibt Sprit und Gas.
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Da kenne ich hier sicher genug welche, die genau darauf warten bis Putin auch nach Deutschland mit Referenden kommt. 
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| | Zitat von h3llfir3
| | Putin verhängt Kriegsrecht in den vier annektierten Regionen
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1582713474886815745
| | Martial state on occupied territories will make possible forceful mobilization of Ukrainian male citizens there and send them to the trenches to die - just like residents of Donetsk and Luhansk regions earlier.
It's genocide. Terror. Extreme cynicism. | |
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1582477823624720384
| | Can people please chill about Italy!
Berlusconi is mad that Meloni doesn't care about his senile delusions and crazy demands, and is now making a fuss to get back some limelight from her.
It's gonna backfire and he will be pushed out of all decision making by ruthless Meloni. | |
| | putin had forgotten about Berlusconi for all the years Berlusconi's party was in opposition... and the moment Berlusconi's party is back in government, putin wrote Berlusconi a love letter declaring him to be "one of his five best friends"... and Berlusconi fell for that.
*picard facepalm.gif* | |
https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1577520523180924928
| | Ok, let's talk about lend-lease. I see that this issue still causes confusion and various speculations, so I will try to put everything on the shelves. Thread 🧵
Despite reports, the lend-lease did not take effect on October 1 with the onset of the new fiscal year in the United States. The law came into force on May 9 after being signed by Joe Biden, and under this law, deliveries could have been made earlier. Then why weren't they?
Lend-lease is just one of the programs under which Ukraine can receive American weapons - but on lease or loan. In other words, the provided weapons will then have to be either paid for or returned.
Instead, under other programs, weapons for the Armed Forces are provided free of charge and for unlimited use. Once received, it becomes the property of Ukraine. And as long as Congress allocates money for these programs, the United States will use them.
Previously, it was unknown whether Congress would approve new funding for Kyiv for the next fiscal year. This is where the media came up with the date of October 1 - the "beginning" of the land lease was automatically tied to it. But on September 30, Congress approved an additional 12 billion for Ukraine - part of which will go to military support. Therefore, all upcoming arms packages will continue to be delivered by the US under other programs "as a gift". The use of the Lend-Lease is postponed - but this does not mean bad news.
Many people are waiting for the Lend-Lease because of the perception that this program will bring arms supplies from the United States to a whole new level. That there will be much more weapons, and they will be much better - tanks, aircraft, artillery, MLRS, to emphasize the necessary. But this is not true - the lend-lease will not unlock opportunities that are not available now. The provision of this or that weapon depends not on the program, but on the political decision in the United States. Programs are about the delivery mechanism, not about the content. Then what is the purpose of the lend-lease?
Lend-lease is a plan B in case Congress does not approve new funding for Kyiv. Joe Biden promises to support Ukraine for as long as it takes - and that's where the lend loan trump card can come in handy. To provide weapons under this program, the White House will not have to ask Congress for money again and wait for it to be approved. This is a simplified and accelerated procedure. And what exactly to provide will be decided by the US administration.
I don't know when the lend loan will start, it depends on the composition of the Congress after the elections in November, and whether they will support new funding for Ukraine. But with this program, the U.S. has the opportunity to continuously support Ukraine for the long term, as long as it takes.
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https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1582439847221817346
| | US Senate wants the Pentagon to buy:
• 750,000 XM1128 / XM1123
• 1,000 M777
• 700 (!) M142 HIMARS
• 100,000 GMLRS
• 20,000 Stinger
• 25,000 Javelin
• 30,000 Hellfire
• 36,000 AGM-179
• 1,000 Harpoon
• 800 NSM
• 10,000 Patriot PAC-3
• 6,000 (!) ATACMS
• 20,000 AMRAAM
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| | If you want to read more about the Senate's plan to allow the Pentagon to buy immense amounts of ammo in the next years:
Here is a Defense News article: Lawmakers seek emergency powers for Pentagon’s Ukraine war contracting
| | | Bipartisan legislation introduced in the Senate would grant the Pentagon wartime procurement powers, allowing it to buy massive amounts high-priority munitions using multi-year contracts to help Ukraine fight Russia and to refill U.S. stockpiles. | |
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https://twitter.com/polidemitolog/status/1582359382830219270
| | I made a convenient graphic explanation of Putin's strategy to win the war. You don't have to thank me.
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https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1582327816913182720
| | Speaking of natural gas prices, we are now below 120 EUR/MWh in Europe (Amsterdam). The decimation of Russia’s relevance is going as planned. #Ukraine #Russia #NaturalGas
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https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1582713780361838594
| | BREAKING: Israel rules out arms transfers to Ukraine
Ukraine's formal request for Israeli Iron Dome technology has been shot down
Israel could confine its assistance to humanitarian support and defensive equipment, as per Benny Gantz's latest remarks
Despite Gantz's comments which rule out offensive weapons systems, there appears to be a path for Israel to supply anti-drone equipment, which would harmonize Israeli support for Ukraine with current Western policy
| | | #Breaking: Israeli DefMin Gantz told EU diplomats the Russian use of Iranian drones against Ukraine is a "change of paradigm," and alluded to increasing anti-drone defense support for Ukraine. | |
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1582794925304729601
| | Meanwhile in Russia: anger and disappointment fill the studio, as the viewers are being prepared for the loss of Kherson and other territories. Host Olga Skabeeva bitterly questions why Russia was so wrong in the beginning, believing that Zelensky would run & NATO wouldn't help.
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| | So the russians are planning on shelling Kherson, using chemical weapons and flooding the area?
Did i hear that right? | |
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1582736103206813697
| | | Ukrainian troops continue to strike at the locks of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station in order to flood the territory of the Kherson region - says Volodymyr Saldo, so called head of region. | |
Klingt so, als würden sich die Russen schon mal auf die Dammsprengung vorbereiten, wenn sie das der Ukraine vorwerfen.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 6 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Herr der Lage am 19.10.2022 21:25]
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"Die Situation ist schwierig" war auch der Tenor als ihnen zuletzt ne Front zusammengebrochen ist. Man darf auf gute Nachrichten aus dem Süden hoffen
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https://twitter.com/AndreasSteno/status/1582654913426833410 | Thread Reader
| | Gas- and electricity prices are dropping FAST in Europe right now and they are likely going to drop further!
What is going on? 💲🪔A thread
Nat Gas prices have dropped from >300 EURs pr MWh to levels just north of 50 EURs and day ahead prices are even lower in many areas of Europe
Prices in Spain have dropped as low as 27 EURs pr MWh for Gas as there is currently a queue of ships waiting to off-load outside of Spanish LNG ports
This has led LNG within day prices to trade sub 25 (below the PVB price) as LNG operators are trying to get more room for the LNG waiting off-shore
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Fill levels in European gas storages are approaching 100% way ahead of the deadline 1st of November and paired with milder than usual weather, this leads to a very low net spot demand for Gas
Germany is for example still running large daily net injections into storage through mid-October as
1) The flow is decent
2) The temperatures are mild and
3) The nat gas consumption among households and the industry is DOWN relative to 2021
There is hence very limited scarcity risks for October/November and the arrow points clearly DOWN for prices as a consequence. LNG ships are queing up and there is nowhere to place it..
This is likely going to bring the entire nat gas- and electricity curve DOWN in coming weeks at the very least until the heating season really kicks in through November..
The armageddon scenario is for now NOT worth talking about..
BUT the 2023 supply is much less certain! LNG makes up 40% of the current supply of gas in Europe, but we are still running 20-25% below usual flow levels due to the lack of Russian gas
The winter just ahead of us seems to be save, but in 23 we may be in for renewed turbulence
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Keine Ahnung, ob das stimmt. In den Medien war ja bisher immer nur von den besetzten Gebieten der Ukraine diesbezüglich die Rede:
https://twitter.com/dubowy_alex/status/1582723004185780224
| | Achtung: #Putin verhängte #Kriegszustand - nicht lediglich - in vier teilbesetzten Gebieten der #Ukraine, sondern - im gesamten Gebiet - #Russland|s. Das Gesetz "Über den Kriegszustand" ist in diesem Punkt eindeutig.
Wie bereits im Falle sogenannter - gesetzlich nicht vorgesehener - "Teilmobilmachung“, möchte #Kreml auch dieses Mal durch beschönigende und verhüllende Formulierungen Panik vermeiden, sich aber gleichzeitig alle Optionen offen halten.
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https://twitter.com/DimitriNabokoff/status/1582720376047820800
| | Lasst euch nicht von #Putin täuschen. Er hat NICHT nur das #Kriegsrecht in 4 Regionen der #Ukraine erklärt! - Es gilt faktisch in 1/3 von #Russland
- Ausgangs/Straßensperre
- Fahrzeuginspektion
- Eigentumsbeschl.
- 30 Tage Knast
- Erzwungene Umsiedlung
- Ausländerinternierung
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https://twitter.com/Fireblade577/status/1582789613155852288
| | More bad news regarding the Novo Kakhovka dam
The Russians have started dumping water from the reservoir into downstream Dnipro
It's another sign they are preparing to blow it after trying to evacuate their military from their bridgehead | |
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1582786157045161986
| | Fire, partial blackout reported in power substation in Russia's Belgorod
Russian authorities say that a transformer switched off at the Yuzhnaya substation due to voltage swell. Ukrainian officials didn't comment on the incident.
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ISW: Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, October 19
| | Russian authorities are likely setting information conditions to justify planned Russian retreats and significant territorial losses in Kherson Oblast.
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Surovikin‘s and Saldo’s statements are likely attempts to set information conditions for a full Russian retreat across the Dnipro River, which would cede Kherson City and other significant territory in Kherson Oblast to advancing Ukrainian troops. Russian military leaders have evidently learned from previous informational and operational failures during the recent Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkiv Oblast and are therefore likely attempting to mitigate the informational and operational consequences of failing to defend against another successful Ukrainian advance.
Russian forces are also setting information conditions to conduct a false-flag attack on the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (HPP). The Russian military may believe that breaching the dam could cover their retreat from the right bank of the Dnipro River and prevent or delay Ukrainian advances across the river.
Surovikin claimed on October 18 that he has received information that Kyiv intends to strike the dam at the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (HPP), which he alleged would cause destructive flooding in Kherson Oblast.
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Russian authorities likely intend these warnings about a purported Ukrainian strike on the Kakhovka HPP to set information conditions for Russian forces to damage the dam and blame Ukraine for the subsequent damage and loss of life, all while using the resulting floods to cover their own retreat further south into Kherson Oblast. The Kremlin could attempt to leverage such a false-flag attack to overshadow the news of a third humiliating retreat for Russian forces, this time from western Kherson. Such an attack would also further the false Russian information operation portraying Ukraine as a terrorist state that deliberately targets civilians.
Russia continues to use the guise of civilian “evacuations” as a cover for the mass forced removal of civilians from Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine.
Saldo’s announcement of a mass withdrawal from the west bank of the Dnipro River is likely intended in part to evacuate Russian occupation officials, collaborators, and other occupation organs in anticipation of imminent Ukrainian advances, but Russian officials are likely also using the façade of humanitarian necessity to deport large populations of Ukrainians to Russia, as ISW has previously reported.
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s October 19 declaration of martial law readiness is largely legal theater meant to legitimize activities the Russian military needs to undertake or is already undertaking while creating a framework for future mobilization and domestic restrictions.
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suiziddrohnen sollten verboten werden.
auch die switchblades.
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| | Zitat von pesto
suiziddrohnen sollten verboten werden.
auch die switchblades.
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Ja nu, Angriffskrieg, Genozid und Gräuel an Zivilbevölkerung sind auch verboten.
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Suiziddrohne ist auch ein verquerer Begriff. Da suzidiert sich niemand. Das ist im Grunde die gleiche Kategorie Waffe wie ein Marschflugkörper. Der suizidiert sich dann auch, der Logik folgend.
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Suizidiert wird bemannt nur in der russischen Luftwaffe. Su umbennen, meine Meinung!
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