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"When be this tank Tiger II really ready now you speak german... no steel"
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Reuter am 20.02.2013 19:04]
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Fass es nur noch mal zusammen, mir sind ja beim lesen ingame noch nicht genug Hirnzellen gestorben.
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Aha! Farmt das pOT für Karma. :P
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Naja wenn ich Karmawhoren würde dann würde ich jedes dritte Bild da hochladen.
/e andersrum poste ich fast jedes Bild und Foto von da hier rein 
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von TheLastGuardian am 20.02.2013 19:58]
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Weiterverwendung von meinen Screenshots! Ich verklag dich, Copyrightverletzer!
Wenigstens hattest du noch den Anstand, meine Garage/Informationen auszuschneiden.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von juckrebel am 20.02.2013 20:02]
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War das jetzt gut oder schlecht? Ich wollte jetzt nicht, dass die ganze Welt deinen Account sieht, wenn das uncool war dickes Sorry dann nehme ich von hier keine Bilder mehr.
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Haha  Wollte nur mal rumstressen, ich glaub da hat doch keiner n Problem mit. Ich würde behaupten die Screenshots sind eh Wargaming©, oder net?
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| | Tank Aces of World War II
When looking at the topic, two things become noticeable:
1) No matter where or how you look at it, Germans dominate the charts. English Wikipedia does not even have an own list for tank aces, but one for German WW2 tank aces!.
2) Michael Wittmann. Everywhere. Documentaries always focus on him, and you will always find him somehow. And that even though he only was the fourth most accomplished tank ace - how could that be?
So, let's have a look at it. Why Germans, why Michael Wittmann?
Why Germany?
While Germany was renowned for its Panzers, they really did not field many very strong tanks up until ~1942. And yet tiny Germany was able to hold against the Western Allies and Russia until 1945, and was able to achieve tank kill/loss rates of around 5:1 at the eastern and 4:1 at the western front.
The reasons for this far precede World War II. In 1919, the Treaty of Versailles decided that Germany alone was to blame for World War I, and prohibited Germany from having a strong military, including bans of tanks and limiting the army to a mere 100,000 soldiers. From this situation, the German military tacticians saw only one way for successful war planning: They needed a very efficient -Germany therefore trained its soldiers incredibly well- and hyper-mobile force which could overwhelm the enemy before he even mobilized his complete force. Motorized infantry in cooperation with combined arms (air force, artillery, and if possible tanks) would be able to achieve this.
In other words, the fundamentals of Blitzkrieg preceeded even the first German tank.
From this line of thought, the national socialist tank programme starting in secret in the early 1930s focussed on very skilled crews, which could make their own decisions and did not rely too much on commands from above.
As we all know, Blitzkrieg worked miracles in Poland, France and during the first summer in Russia. Germany overwhelmed all opponents, even though their armour of that time -PzKpfw I, II, III and IV in their early versions- were far inferior to even a T-34.
In Russia they encountered this tank, and realised that their armour up to this point was suddenly antiquated. From there on they spend many ressources into building tanks that would not only win right now, but also dominate the battlefield for years to come. They knew that against the vast supplies of Russia and the USA, they would have to fight with great efficiency! Tanks such as Tiger, Panther and their successors and derivates were born from this mindset.
The moment Tiger came, tank aces emerged. The highly skilled crews of Germany already had great numbers against the poorly trained Russian crews, but now they had a weapon that could destroy enemies from 2.000 meters and beyond with ease.
Tank aces like Carius, Knispel and Wittmann usually were tank soldiers who fought the war from the beginning. So we have highly trained soldiers with lots of combat experience, who now gain access to the best hardware out there.
TL;DR:
Germany knew they would need the best trained soldiers out there, which resulted in excellently trained tank crews.
The Germans already had great experience in 1942 from four years of war, and then started building the most expensive, highest quality tanks there were.
Great crews + Great tanks = Great results.
Why Wittmann?
From my research and estimations, there appear to be three main reasons why Wittmann is so incredibly well known:
He was good. However, this doesn't explain it alone, as you can see from the charts there were three soldiers with higher kill numbers.
Villers-Bocage. The most famous single-tank exploit there ever was; A single Tiger taking out dozens of western allied vehicles in a single encounter.
Because he was a member of the SS, the Nazis loved using him for propaganda. Therefore, out of all tank aces there are the most records about him!
The third point might be the most important one. For anyone who does not know so well about the German army structure: The Wehrmacht was the actual army, while the SS was a political institution - basically a paramilitary unit of the NSDAP. When the nazis took power, they decided to form some elite SS units, which would recieve the best training and best equipment - and yet many historians claim that these units did not do all too well, mostly because they were not exactly a part of the Wehrmacht and therefore would encounter trouble in communications. Many Wehrmachts-Officers claimed they would rather see important equipment like the Tigers all gathered in hands of the real army.
From the tank aces you can find on the Panzer Ace List, you can see that Wittmann was the highest scoring member of the SS. And sadly, he also was a very dedicated Nazi. Hence the preference to focus all propaganda on him.
What about the other Panzer aces?
From the number two of the list, Otto Carius, we happen to know a lot because he survived the war and wrote a book about it, called "Tigers in the Mud". He is a valuable source for wartime experiences of German soldiers. Throughout the war he commanded a PzKpfw 38(t), Tiger, Tiger II and Jagdtiger.
About Kurt Knispel, the highest tank ace of all times, we sadly happen to know little. This has two reasons:
While popular amongst his comrades, he was not well liked by the Nazis. He was promoted slowly, and denied many awards that were natural for other soldiers of such success.
He died in 1945, when his Tiger II was surrounded by T-34.
Knispel joined the war unusually late for a soldier of his achievement. He started in 1941 as a gunner in a PzKpfw IV. He managed to shoot down between 10 and 20 tanks during this time, and was quickly known as the best gunner of his division - a man who would frequently shoot and destroy the target before the commander even gave the order.
When in 1943 he became gunner of a Tiger, his kills quickly skyrocketed and his commanders contributed much of their success to his abilities. Knispel however was not a nazi and while well liked by his fellow soldiers and direct superiors, is rumored to have protected prisoners of war and to have been very loose about provisions, as you can see from his beard. For me this is even more reason to like him and (especially as a German) makes me a little sad that Wittmann takes the spotlight all the time! | |
http://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/18ur0m/german_tank_aces_of_world_war_ii_some_names/
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von TheLastGuardian am 20.02.2013 21:19]
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Der KöTi ist Koni im Ferdi.
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the 7,92mm EW141 penetration comes from the fact it did not use regular 7,92mm ammo, rather than long Panzerbüchse 38 cartridges (7,92x94 Patrone 318)
the gold camo price for VK2801 won't be returned - when it reaches tier 6, you actually get free T6 camo for the price of T5
all WG projects will have at one point a single player account
according to SerB there is no need to implement an autoloader tank for every game nation tree
ingame Centurions won't be modified to recieve less crits
British arty branch will be "historical", when it comes to compatibility of modules with current British tanks/TDs (SS: however, from what I understand, currently the British arty is in "general balancing" stage, eg. the models are already made)
Japanese tree doesn't have LTs all the way to tier 8
the way the Soviet arty branch will look after tier 10 arty is introduced is "still secret"
Q: "Will there be some drastically new modes introduced?" A (SerB): "Sure, tanks will grow gardens, collect harvest and visit each other in their homes" (SS: the real answer is no)
no ETA on 1x1 maps (Q: Can we expect them this year? A: Well, you can always expect...)
camo mechanics reworked? "As always, I'll tell when the time is right"
regarding hightier Soviet and British LTs: "Soviet LTs were just on paper - there is little data on them. The British have nothing comparable to - say - AMX-13/90" and "FV300 LT can make tier 6, Scorpion tier 5 max, Sheridan is unlikely to make tier 8", Soviet LTs will be revealed "later, wait for announcements". The T7 and T8 US vehicles might be the Walker Bulldog and the T92.
the FV4005 Stage 2 183mm introduction confirmed by SerB in British arty branch (SS: god knows why, the 183mm was not a howitzer)
British arty branch: it will not be like the French one, it's possible it will fire HESH shells, it will have some autoloaders (which most likely will not be displayed), it will come with or after the introduction of tier 10 arties, they will have from +-35 to +-45 degrees gun arc
RU server started its 6th cluster in test mode, it's in Moscow (no server in Ukraine planned due to bad infrastructure)
there will be no XP compensation for XP spent on current T5 LTs
not ALL the current blind t5 LT branches will end with T8 and not all will be merged back with other branches (some will stay blind)
Storm says that the White Tiger in the movie was driven by a demon
there will eventually be new camos introduced, but not in any of the near patches
there are no special torque differences in game (SS: eg. a diesel tank doesn't overtake a gasoline tank just because diesel engines have higher torque)
server lags are "being studied" (SS: Storm acknowledges the issue)
developers can't use "cheat codes" to add gold/anything for themselves
19.2.2013
according to Storm, ramming collision model works fine (SS: player was complaining that tracks eat up way too much ramming damage)
Storm is testing, whether the new Nvidia drivers from yesterday work properly with WoT (SS: so far, according to Russian feedback, the new drivers work just fine)
apparently, there is no "excessive" damage, external modules don't eat damage (SS: players were complaining about tracks and gun eating damage and only the leftover damage being transferred to the enemy tank HP, Storm says there is no such thing)
track repair time based on the speed the vehicle was going when detracked won't be implemented
later vehicles such as Abrams, Challenger and T-72 will NOT be implemented
it's not yet decided how the EU tree crewmembers will work, it's too soon to tell
http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/2013/02/1822013.html
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Der KöTi ist Koni im Ferdi.
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Muss man wissen!
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Zu der Sache mit den Tank Aces. Hatte heute durch Langeweile mal die Medaillen von Wot durchgesucht in Wikipedia. Was ich zum Beispiel nicht wusste und ganz Interessant fand war, dass Radley-Walters und Ekins zusammen gegen Wittman gekämpft haben. Und dieser dann in dem Kampf wohl umgekommen ist. Hatte mir über die Namen hinter den Auszeichnungen nie Gedanken gemacht. Obwohl Knispel ein ganz schönes Badass ist.Also vom Aussehen her 
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War das jetzt gut oder schlecht? Ich wollte jetzt nicht, dass die ganze Welt deinen Account sieht, wenn das uncool war dickes Sorry dann nehme ich von hier keine Bilder mehr.
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Komm runter. Ich hab nur gescherzt, von mir aus kannst du Screenshots von mir ficken so lange du mir keine Bilder davon sendest.
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Silenstalker's Russian Q&A 20.2.2013 & ...
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Q: "Dear devs, you stated the camo mechanism might change, why is it needed to change it?" A: "Because big vehicles are hard to camouflage" (SS: Hmmm... big tank camo nerf?)
HE splash passes thru solid objects, because it's impossible to model in real time the explosion "flow" physics around them
the hidden "module damage" shell characteristic also has +/-25 percent spread
Churchill GC will cost 49050 XP to unlock from Churchill I
the shell trajectories in WoT do not respond to those in real life - for example they are symmetrical, while in real life air resistance makes the trajectory asymetrical
SerB confirms it's possible to "bend" regular shells (eg. to fire behind a hill), doesn't tell how exactly - he only suggests "perform experiements"
http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/2013/02/2022013.html
Overlord answers some questions on 8.4 and other topics
Source: http://overlord-wot.blogspot.fr/2013/02/wot-84-test-impressions-post.html As always, the questions were redacted by me. I'd also hereby like to express my thanks to Overlord for being the only developer who bothers with posting in English and keeps answering our sometimes silly questions 
Q: How's it with Garage Battles? A: No time frame for garage battles at this stage, we are thinking of a totally new concept for them and not ready to announce it just yet.
Q: New maps? A: Neither mods nor maps were planned for 8.4. Next update will bring at least one new map.
Q: What about the E-sports and endgame? A: Guess, you have already heard of our thoughts on promoting esports and competitive play in-game (possible new mode). We are thinking of an in-game support for 7/42 mode with skill-based matchmaking, ratings and such stuff. Full teams are much harder to find. We are going to promote other formats as well. As for CWs, I have said enough in the recent posts. We are planning a lot of changes. CW is becoming a high priority these days. Unfortunately it hasn't been so up until now.
Q: Yeah yeah ... CW. Many clans are giving up as there are some "old boys" just sitting on provinces for last two years with no way to get rid of them without nukes, so who cares anyway? A: That's why we need regular wipes and seasons.
Q: What about duel battles for example? A: Duels would require special maps and are likely to be a kind of entertainment for very few.
Q: What about the number of drawing/prototype tanks in World of Tanks, isn't that a problem? A: I can't say that agree here. AT-series has got its place in game just like most of top tier German, American, Soviet, and especially French tanks that have seen no or little no service and/or combat use. If you take a closer look, I'm sure you are good at warfare history, you will see how limited was RL usage of tanks with most of the nations having only several highly reliable and popular models. Not dozens. With our numbers (200+ tanks), we don't plan to maintain 100% authenticity, borders have been watered down.
Q: Skill-based MM? A: Skill-based MM-ing will work only for ranked battles - eg 7/42 mode.
Q: Why not skill-based MM in randoms? A: Because ordinary player shouldn't be punished for its skill, getting the hardest possible competition in every battle.
Q: Historical battles in random? A: As for historical battles, we dont think they are suitable for random. They should contain some nicely developed PVE element. That requires time.
Q: OMG, anti-German bias! A: There should be smth anti-german in every update. ..... Everything is good apart from the "German tanks were superior on the battlefield because they communicated and teams that communicate are superior in WOT" thing. You really need to abandon all myths.
Q: How fast will the new tank branches come? A: Allow at least 1.5 months for each tank line.
Q: About the 8.4 test Tortoise - I am a bit confused: it has quite a weak armor (or more specifically, a huge weakspot on one of its sides). Storm wrote that it's intentional and it's compensated by high HP pool, but some people claim he was being ironic and that the Tortoise is scheduled for an armor buff (and the weakspot is a bug). How is it really? A: Armour groups on Tortoise are messed up - half of its front hull is 38mm. Guys will see to it and fix the bugs.
Q: What about the pre-battle countdown? A: As for "countdown is supposed be used to make a plan" there was some discussion of how to improve the situation, but it hasn't been finalized and is not in development yet.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/18wog2/silenstalkers_russian_qa_2022013_overlord_answers/
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von TheLastGuardian am 20.02.2013 22:20]
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Ja, ein paar Fragen weiter:
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Ändert nichts daran, dass es für Random-Battles wohl nie ein skillbasiertes MM geben wird.
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Jaja, schon klar. Aber immerhin hat WG mal erkannt, dass es fürs kompetitive Spielen einen Ranked-Matchmaker braucht. Und wer weiß, vielleicht kommt das ja auch als optionaler Spielmodus rein... SoloQueue-Random 
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Mit Draftmode, wo dann zusätzlich alle 30 Spieler abwechselnd einen Panzer picken und vorher die beiden Spieler mit dem höchsten Skill fürs Battletier abwechselnd 6 Panzer bannen?
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Jonge, das wäre ziemlich nice! Das ganze Team votet dann allerdings nur für einen Panzer, den sie bannen wollen.
Und dann führt man noch Maps mit 3 Lanes ein und stellt Tower auf!
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Die Landser sind erschienen!
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Ihr wusstet alle was ich sagen will.
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Die Landser sind erschienen!
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und First Blood is dann Blitzkrieg
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Der KöTi ist Koni im Ferdi.
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Ihr wusstet alle was ich sagen will.
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Ich nicht... aber das ist ja nix Neues.
Danke jedenfalls, dass du wieder das Kommando übernommen hast... ersten paar Runden ohne klare Linie und ohne Androhung von Schlägen waren ja katastrophal.
Kein Danke für den Teamkill, du mieser Kleiner 
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*munchkrumkrumchipsmampf*
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lol, Goldnoob.
e: Nur Noob, ohne Gold:
Allererste Runde heute... ich sollte aufhören zu spielen, besser wirds heute eh nicht mehr
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von MvG am 21.02.2013 8:35]
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8k Spotting Damage im 12t. Würde ich ficken
(MvG ist gleich am Start gestorben im T34, sein Glück hielt also nicht an.)
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8k Spotting Damage im 12t. Würde ich ficken
(MvG ist gleich am Start gestorben im T34, sein Glück hielt also nicht an.)
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So konnte ich immerhin in aller Ruhe unserem IS (dem wohl dümmsten Spieler in WoT) zuschauen, hatte auch was für sich
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Kein Danke für den Teamkill, du mieser Kleiner
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Wenn man die Wahl hat geliebt oder gehasst zuwerden so soll man sich doch immer für das Zweite entscheiden. Durch diese drastische Aktion konnte ich die Disziplin im Rest der Truppe doch wesentlich erhöhen. Und machen wir uns nichts vor du wärst ja doch drauf gegangen.
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