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https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1536394221556576257 | Thread Reader
| | Would have been easier just to have one line, saying "We withdraw from the Northern Ireland Protocol" since that is the obvious impact of this Bill. Total contempt shown for treaties and international law.
Quick read of the legal basis for the UK government's End of Protocol Bill - with apologies for language - F**k you and international law, we're right and can do what we like.
No loss for words here. This is a truly disgraceful bill in which the UK government seek to rip up a treaty it entered willingly because it is having the effect it was expected to have, and the UK government instead of seeking to manage it chose to inflame. ...
The EU with a firm response. In private, or perhaps semi-public, expect similar from the US.
Very bad news for UK business now facing heightened risk of worsening UK-EU trade relations. ...
Serious point though - this Bill and legal justification are so far from acceptable in normal international relations, and still some in government will think it could have gone further, that you have to worry about how we go from here, there is no basis for compromise here. ...
Wait until Moscow or Beijing invokes "the doctrine of necessity" to override its international obligations. The damage that UK ministers are doing with this bill - simply because they cannot accept their mistake and negotiate in good faith - goes far beyond Northern Ireland. ...
So in summary, the total emasculation of a treaty willingly entered, with the excuse of imminent peril to the future of the state (which by extension therefore gives the unionist community veto power over any international treaty). Disgraceful, farcical, and damaging to the UK.
On consideration the worst part of today's Protocol legislation is this - for 30 years it has been bipartisan UK government practice to ensure major interventions are balanced in some way between Northern Ireland communities. Today ends that practice, being highly divisive.
... given the potential for serious political and economic damage resulting, it is hard to recall a more self damaging piece of proposed legislation.
This US administration does not want to get terribly involved in Northern Ireland but expects negotiation rather than unilateral action. Actions will follow, as they have before, if the words are not enough. ...
Oh, and as per previous battles, such as with the EU over the level playing field, an outrageous and intransigent approach from the UK will get less from the EU than actually trying to negotiate. Because they can't be seen to yield to this. An all round calamity.
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https://twitter.com/AntonSpisak/status/1536471209021526018 | Thread Reader
| | | Some thoughts on the NI Protocol Bill, what it means, and where it takes us next. A thread: ... | |
| | Today, we've entered a new chapter of this sorry saga, with Johnson's govt forging its own path over the Protocol. Where does this end? It's too early to tell, but I'm not too confident this bill ever becomes the law or that it doesn't backfire beyond No10's worst dreams. /Ends
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https://twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1536663272216268806 | Thread Reader
| | A brief thread on EU's latest thinking on UKG's Protocol move:
Senior officials believe yesterday's events mark a new nadir in UK/EU's post-Brexit relationship. That's not just bc of the substance of Bill or HMG's unilateral move - but also bc of everything that's come before: IM Bill, EU's attempt to offer solutions, drama since 2016 etc.
No senior voice in Bxl/big EU capitals believes there's space for serious negotiation. The Bill's demands are maximalist. They offer no alternative or off ramp. The inclusion of ECJ & implicit/explicit UKG view that WA is out of date makes officials sceptical UKG wants a deal. Trust is completely broken. @MarosSefcovic was trying to build a rapport with @trussliz. That goodwill has been destroyed. I understand he's told @vonderleyen he has no trust left in his UK interlocutors. This reinforces lack of trust VdL & EU capitals already have in BJ Govt.
So there are no conditions in place to negotiate.
At the same time, EU is v keen not to escalate confrontation further - given cost of living/economic concerns but more imp, a desire to avoid further dividing Western Alliance while Putin continues to wage his war in Ukraine.
Hence Im told EU's calibrated response will be firm but serene. This means old & new infringement proceedings, alongside publication of multiple papers in the coming days that will explain & exemplify how EU's offer of solutions on basis of Protocol could address probs in NI. @MarosSefcovic has alway said potential of EU's October offer was not fully exhausted. These papers will demonstrate how & why they wd work for NI. This is more to consolidate EU gains in court of public opinion to contrast with UKG approach. There is no expectation of talks.
So Bxl/EU capitals are going to move into a holding pattern. This is partly based on principle (as above) & the belief that it's not for EU to solve Johnson’s problems - esp given they are the product of his own actions: Brexit, IM Bill, activating unionists & weaponizing NIP. There's also a tactical reason to sit tight: senior officials argue EU leaders will be reluctant to afford UKG any concessions while fate of @BorisJohnson is so uncertain. Their concern is that a newly installed PM, fully beholden to Right, will then come along & ask for more.
One official says their strategy is to effectively let Johnson "Mijoter dans son propre jus" - cook in his own juices & let Parly dynamic run its course. They see that support for UKG hard line is fragile in Cabinet & on backbenches. This last ditch attempt of a dying regime. But they're equally clear there will be econ consequences IF Bill becomes law. *So a note for MPs*: the problem for EU is not whether ministers will *use* their new discretionary powers, but whether the Bill is adopted & becomes law. That will invite a v strong EU response. | |
https://twitter.com/rafaelbehr/status/1536432460841594881
| | One reason Johnson has taken this action is that he thinks (wrongly) the drastic measure will jolt EU out of 'bureaucratic' negotiation and into high-level political horse-trading ...
He believes this because he also believes his own mythology about 2019 - how the threat of no-deal, the madman strategy, proving willingness to burn everything, is what got results where May had failed ...
But, in parallel, he believes the weakness of the 2019 deal is down to parliament obstructing full madman strategy - the Benn Act taking the bullets out of his gun; hence to need to compromise; NI protocol etc, signed with fingers crossed behind his back.
And, so the current 'strategy' (not really worthy of that word) is a weird bastard child of his vanity in thinking his plan *did* work in 2019 and that it didn't but *would have* if remainers hadn't foiled it. This helps explain the downright nonsensical approach govt has now taken.
The PM has been persuaded to try something that won't work to fix the bad deal he got last time on the basis that the same technique worked to get such a great deal last time.
tl;dr PM is high on his own supply.
Needs an intervention by what's left of Conservative family that cares about reality and responsible government.
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Warum nicht.....nächste Woche?
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BoJo ist 2 Minister los.
| | | Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Health Secretary Sajid Javid quit Boris Johnson's cabinet amid a row over the handling of misconduct claims against ex-Deputy Chief Whip Chris Pincher | |
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
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"Chief Whip", was das früher der Oberauspeitscher seiner Majestät?
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Bombur am 05.07.2022 19:55]
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Sajid Javid und Rishi Sunak werden ja (neben anderen) als potentielle Johnson-Nachfolger gehandelt.
Ich würde sagen, die bringen sich jetzt für die Zeit nach Johnson in Stellung.
Sie haben zwar BoJos Shitshow ewig schweigend unterstützt... Aber jetzt, wo sich abzeichnet, dass mit Johnson keine weiteren Wahlen mehr zu gewinnnen sind, und die Tories früher oder später einen Nachfolger für Johnson suchen und aufbauen müssen bis zur nächsten Wahl, sehen sie zu, dass sie Abstand gewinnen, um später sagen zu können: "Ich fand BoJo schon immer doof und unter meiner Führung wird alles gaaaanz anders..."
Ich hätte erwartet, dass Liz Truss ebenfalls geht, da sie auch als potentielle Johnson-Nachfolgerin gehandelt wird, aber bisher sieht es nicht danach aus.
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1544374652117700610
| | | Stella Braverman and Liz Truss staying in government | |
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Als ob die Wurst sowas wie Rückgrat hätte, um sich das Scheitern einzugestehen
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Erst, wenn er Gouverneur von Odessa werden darf!
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| | Zitat von [Muh!]Shadow
Als ob die Wurst sowas wie Rückgrat hätte, um sich das Scheitern einzugestehen
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| | Zitat von [Muh!]Shadow
Als ob die Wurst sowas wie Rückgrat hätte, um sich das Scheitern einzugestehen
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| | | A senior ally of the prime minister told the BBC: "It's now a question of how he exits," adding the situation was "not sustainable". | |
Gesundheitliche Gründe gehen doch immer, auch spontan.
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BoJo hat einfach überhaupt kein Schamgefühl. Die werden ihn rausschmeißen müssen, von alleine geht der nicht.
Da kommt einfach nur wieder ein "Wir müssen jetzt nach vorne blicken" und der nächste Besuch bei Zelensky, um wieder ein paar positive Schlagzeilen zu generieren.
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| | Zitat von -=Q=- 8-BaLL
| | Zitat von [Muh!]Shadow
Als ob die Wurst sowas wie Rückgrat hätte, um sich das Scheitern einzugestehen
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| | | A senior ally of the prime minister told the BBC: "It's now a question of how he exits," adding the situation was "not sustainable". | |
Gesundheitliche Gründe gehen doch immer, auch spontan.
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"schreiend und zeternd" fänd ich passend.
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Atomsk am 06.07.2022 16:41]
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| | | Johnson says 'of course' when asked if he'll be PM tomorrow | |
Buchstäblich 5 Minuten später
| | | A group of cabinet ministers are about to tell the PM to resign, including the chief whip, the BBC understands. | |
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https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1544777837407789058 >
| | | Woah, No 10 has sacked Michael Gove (via @SamCoatesSky). Gove told the PM to resign earlier today and this the response | |
Power seeps away from Boris Johnson | FT
| | | Prime minister looks crushed as Conservative MPs turn on their leader at Westminster | |
| | According to officials briefed on the meeting, Gove told Johnson the time had come: he had to go. The prime minister was defiant and insisted he was determined to carry on. Then he sacked Gove.
Johnson might have written off this advice as further evidence of Gove’s treachery, were it not for the fact that his minister was simply reporting the facts: the Conservative party had turned decisively on its leader.
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Boris Johnson sacks 'snake' Michael Gove as Tories urge PM to quit
| | | Some 45 MPs have now quit their roles in Mr Johnson's Government since Tuesday evening as dozens of backbenchers publicly withdrew their support. | |
| | More frontbench walkouts took the total of Tory MPs quitting official posts over the past two days to 45
The Telegraph can reveal that the government Whips Office has calculated that Mr Johnson would win the support of just 65 Tory MPs in a new confidence vote, from a total of almost 360
The leadership race to succeed the Prime Minister broke into the open late Wednesday as Suella Braverman, the Attorney General, declared her candidacy on live TV
Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, Nadhim Zahawi, the new Chancellor, and Chris Heaton-Harris, the Chief Whip, were among the Cabinet figures who on Wednesday told Mr Johnson he had lost the support of his party
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https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1544764306201493507
| | | Increasingly clear Boris Johnson will not go tonight. Or even tomorrow. Looks like the new 1922 committee will change the rules and there will be another confidence vote next week. Which Mr Johnson will lose. Lose badly. Then it will be over. Cue summer leadership contest. | |
https://twitter.com/MrJonDePlume/status/1544771621566746627
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1544795523722498049
| | | Thursday’s @DailyMirror front page: Just Get Exit Done. | |
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 5 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Herr der Lage am 07.07.2022 4:53]
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Er kapiert nicht, dass er einfach nur der nützliche Idiot für seine Partei war. Nur blöd, daß sie ihn nicht absägen können ohne Regeländerung.
Aber wann haben die Regeln schon die Tories von etwas abgehalten. Regeln sind dazu da, für andere zu gelten!
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gibts bei den tories eigentlich mittlerweile kandidaten, die nem wiederbeitritt in die eu offen stünden, oder wird auch der nächste pm voraussichtlich diese farce weiter durchziehen?
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Da es jetzt eine Partei für den Wiederbeitritt gibt (oder so) würde ich vermuten das die Tories eher auf einer Plattform dagegen wahlkämpfen. Ist bewährt und einfacher weil man sich nichts neues ausdenken muss. 
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Die nehmen sich jetzt einfach das GOP Playbook, macht man heute so.
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Dorries hat es offensichtlich echt drauf. Sie sollte nächte MP werden.
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Man darf ja nicht spotten, das ist die selbe Clowsfiesta wie mit Scheuer. Nur dass der Schwachkopf hier eine Stufe höher steht.
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| | Zitat von zapedusa
Dorries hat es offensichtlich echt drauf. Sie sollte nächte MP werden.
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Erstmal eine neue Staffel I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here
btw
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[Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert; zum letzten Mal von Jehova-3 am 07.07.2022 10:09]
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BJ going down
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Schade, hatte noch auf ein bisschen mehr Chaos gehofft.
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Wenn er als „Caretaker“ weiterhin die Geschäfte führen will, gibt es noch ein bisschen Shit Show, keine Angst.
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